Need help with ID - and disassembly procedure - dueling BP pistols

[louthepou]

Hello BP community.

A good friend of mine brought me this; belonged to his father. Found stored in the family home, been put away several decades ago. Believed to have been bought in Germany when the father was stationed there.

Given these are (from what I can tell) recently made (relatively speaking - after 1898), I assume they'll have to be registered as restricted.

Any help with ID, and maybe disassembly (there is probably some stamped information on the underside of the barrel?) will be greatly appreciated... Thanks!

 

[jpc]

Look to be Spanish (possibly)
Think they were around in the '70's

take care

 

[JP]

Reproduction of LePage duelling pistols, definitely modern made and have to be registered.

 

[Coachgun67]

jpc is right, they are in fact made in spain . Those two are made by JUKAR and were made well into the 90's. The model is called Le Page,named after the french gunsmith designing and building them...even Napoleon had a pair. These days they are mostly italian built ( Davide Pedersoli).
They are higher grade built and actually very accurate shooters...I used to own one when still in europe. The trigger is either adjustable ( screw behind) and/or can be set to hair trigger by pushing it forward first. The lock is a fast one, no typical front stuffer delay.
Disassembly is a breeze, drive the barrel wedge out, tilt barrel up... and out. No screws involved, makes it for easy cleaning without getting the pistol soaked.
I don't know about here, but in europe, this "deluxe" pair with accessories goes for around 750-900 Euros.
Google Le Page pistol...you'll find lots to read.
Hope that helps,
CG

 

[louthepou]

Guys, I really appreciate this input. Very much appreciated!

Now, the fun begins to register them with the CFC!

Lou

 

[mooncoon]

on the ones that I have seen, the barrel was held onto the stock by a screw from the bottom going up. The ones that I saw, I think were made in Belgium and the rifling was many fine V grooves

cheers mooncoon

 

[louthepou]

Have to say, gotta be a trick to removing the barrel. Wedge comes out easy, but barrel still tight in the stock.

 

[oldstarfire]

Have to say, gotta be a trick to removing the barrel. Wedge comes out easy, but barrel still tight in the stock.

Try taking out the tang screw. From the photos, they may not be hook breech barrels. Of course 1/2 #### the hammers.....

 

[tacfoley]

Look to be Spanish (possibly) Think they were around in the '70's take care

The stamp of three intersecting rings are the definitive BP proof stamp and the small shield under the serial number are proof marks from Eibar, in the Basque Region of Spain, where these pistols were made. VERY nice they are, too.

 

[maple_leaf_eh]

Do some looking for BP pistol kits. The same principles apply. The lock is screwed to the stock from the left side. The barrel will have a tang screw, and probably a wedge or pin along its length. The plug, well, that's anyone's guess.

 

[mooncoon]

Have to say, gotta be a trick to removing the barrel. Wedge comes out easy, but barrel still tight in the stock.

I am almost positive there is a small screw on the underside of the stock that screws into the barrel. Looking at the photos, the screw might be the one that holds the front of the trigger guard on and possibly screw into the breach plug. Removing the tang screw is also probably necessary.

 

[louthepou]

Well, I went as far as I reasonably could, and the barrel's still tight. Only thing I did not remove was the trigger assembly (but I did remove its retaining screws). So unless there's something under that trigger assembly... Starting to wonder if the barrel is glued to the stock!

 

[vagrantviking]

It's possible there's a screw under the forward end of the trigger assembly but not likely. You should have seen success by now.

With the host of marks visible on the barrel I think it's a bit unlikely that I'll learn more from the underside and run a real risk of chipping the edge of the barrel channel or something.
Maybe do some looking around on the newly released registry data to see if you can find the model you have. I haven't played with it any amount yet so couldn't say how useful it might be for this kind of thing.

Nice guns, look unfired too!

 

[louthepou]

Thanks. I did find "spain" on the inner face of the lock, so, we've got that verified. Extra points to those who had guessed right