New shotguns, MAG-FED and SHORTIES - NEW PICS
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So the quality is not as good as a real clone!
Smoothbore
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CanAm I want to thank you for putting up with all this.
I appreciate your efforts!
It would be great to have an official letter on your website that we could
print off and carry with the firearm in case there is a dispute. I would REALLY
feel more confident if I had a letter.
Thanks again!
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I have just been thinking about this...
if the law says that restricted weapons include:
rifles and shotguns that can be fired when their overall length has been reduced by folding, telescoping or other means to less than 660 mm (about 26 inches);
and "by other means" were to include removing the stock with tools and installing a pistol grip, then virtually all shotguns would be restricted.
Not "would be restricted once they had pistol grips installed" but restricted with regular stocks on them.
Read it again... it says that they are restricted if they CAN be fired if the length is reduced, not ONCE the length is reduced.
Poorly phrased law...
if the law says that restricted weapons include:
rifles and shotguns that can be fired when their overall length has been reduced by folding, telescoping or other means to less than 660 mm (about 26 inches);
and "by other means" were to include removing the stock with tools and installing a pistol grip, then virtually all shotguns would be restricted.
Not "would be restricted once they had pistol grips installed" but restricted with regular stocks on them.
Read it again... it says that they are restricted if they CAN be fired if the length is reduced, not ONCE the length is reduced.
Poorly phrased law...
Yes it is poorly phrased at best but it's up to the RCMP to rule on it, not us minions, and they have. The best thing for us to do now is to get as many into the systems as non-restricted as possible. The more that exist registared as NR the more people they'll make criminals by re-classifying it to restricted. Why do you think they pulled the plug on the Walther bul-pup 22 so fast; they realized, in their opinion, that they made a mistake and didn't want to flood the market with what would have been a very popular 22. The more that are out there the harder they are to take away.
Don't complain or speculate just shut up, accept the RCMP ruling in OUR favour for once, and buy one. For $250-300 I think most of us can afford to take the re-classification risk.
Just my opinion
If it goes restricted and all you have to do is slap a full butt stock on it. Problem solved and it would remain non restricted.
Yeah, but should we buy the tube-mag pump or wait a little while longer for the mag-fed pump? 
For those looking for a quick loading shotgun, the mag-fed would be ideal. All you'd need next is a biometric (fingerprint) trigger lock and you could go from sleeping soundly in your tent to defending yourself from bear attack in a couple of heartbeats. Has anybody marketted a biometric trigger lock yet?
For those looking for a quick loading shotgun, the mag-fed would be ideal. All you'd need next is a biometric (fingerprint) trigger lock and you could go from sleeping soundly in your tent to defending yourself from bear attack in a couple of heartbeats. Has anybody marketted a biometric trigger lock yet?
Yeah, but should we buy the tube-mag pump or wait a little while longer for the mag-fed pump?
For those looking for a quick loading shotgun, the mag-fed would be ideal. All you'd need next is a biometric (fingerprint) trigger lock and you could go from sleeping soundly in your tent to defending yourself from bear attack in a couple of heartbeats. Has anybody marketted a biometric trigger lock yet?
huh??? yet another bear defense thread, lol
If you are out in the woods sleeping in a tent in bear country who is going to trigger lock there gun?
I doubt it. If you cut down a full length stock the RCMP wouldn't consider that a pistol gripped stock so removing the folding portion of your folding stock probably wouldn't suffice either. Can you find a manufactured pistol grip stock to fit the PA-3? You'd still be screwed if the PA-3 is restricted by name.
Well, that is your own interpretation of the law, we still don't know till the RCMP made their own interpretation.
Yes, remove the folding stock and there it is!
The folding stock is holding just by a single screw, to me, cutting a stock is clearly an alteration but removing a screw is not.
What do you mean:restricted by name? nowhere i see Franchi PA-3 in the law, it's restricted because the OAL is under 26".
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Technically you would be altering a factory stock, be it cutting or removing parts.
Yes, that was only my interpretation and I have been guilty of misinterpretting the firearm laws more than once.
I said you'd still be screwed if the PA-3 is restricted by name. Ofhand I can only recall some firearms that have been classified as prohibited by name. I don`t know of any that have been classed as restricted by name, but I don`t proclaim to be an expert so it wouldn`t surprise me to learn that there are some.McCoy said:
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So, what about the 12" barell, one handed firing rule? If I can take the 8.5" out hunting for protection,( non restricted) isn't that an offence if an officer says I might be hunting with it? In this case, wouldn't the 12" be a little less a heat score?
I would think about getting the Canam in 8.5 with a mag for the home, and the 12" from Dlask as well to take out, if this was the case. I wonder if the Dlask is mag capable? I'd just go 12" with mag then. Best of both!
What kind of distance would you expect an 8.5" to remain 'effective'? How about the 12"?
The folding stock question is just another example of how lame the decision making was involving what is prohib. I suppose so is the fact that you can have such a short shot gun if it's 'manufactured' that way, as apposed to it being simply modified.
I would think about getting the Canam in 8.5 with a mag for the home, and the 12" from Dlask as well to take out, if this was the case. I wonder if the Dlask is mag capable? I'd just go 12" with mag then. Best of both!
What kind of distance would you expect an 8.5" to remain 'effective'? How about the 12"?
The folding stock question is just another example of how lame the decision making was involving what is prohib. I suppose so is the fact that you can have such a short shot gun if it's 'manufactured' that way, as apposed to it being simply modified.
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So, getting back to CanAm's original post.....
Chris, are the 12.5" going to be in in time for the next HACS show?
Whats the drill for ordering?
Are Rem 870 accessories compatible with the 12.5"?
Any other details on the mag feed future import, ie, spare mags available, Remmy accessory compatibility, problems getting it in when/if Bill C10 is implemented..?
Chris, are the 12.5" going to be in in time for the next HACS show?
Whats the drill for ordering?
Are Rem 870 accessories compatible with the 12.5"?
Any other details on the mag feed future import, ie, spare mags available, Remmy accessory compatibility, problems getting it in when/if Bill C10 is implemented..?
Does that mean you are taking online orders ?
Is a down payment required ?
Will we be able to have these in our safes by Xmas ?....Slow boat from china...customs etc...is 8 weeks realistic ?
