I'd say SVD must be less common than SKS but although SVD is supposed to have special ammo if I remember correctly it can shoot Mosin 7.62x54R ammo with some accuracy loss. When I hear AKS I think of 5.45, we used to call 7.62 AK as AKM and AKMS. But I guess everybody calls versions of AK differently : )
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I'd say SVD must be less common than SKS but although SVD is supposed to have special ammo if I remember correctly it can shoot Mosin 7.62x54R ammo with some accuracy loss. When I hear AKS I think of 5.45, we used to call 7.62 AK as AKM and AKMS. But I guess everybody calls versions of AK differently : )
for you aks is the 5.45 not for me ... thank you firebat for the poster.
A reference picture of Soviet AK rifles.. so that it's easier to navigate across all those names
I guess the Us are garbage
They dont have cleaning rods LOL
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A lot of people don’t seem to get the “you have what they give you”, whether volunteer civi freedom fighters/terrorists or the “big Army” way. Figuring out “game architecture” isn’t how you win. Not getting killed is how you win. No respawn point...
And if you actually have some real training and experience you could well end up in a leadership role moving barely competent human chess pieces around that constantly do dumb #### and die. Odds are if you hang around long enough you will too. That’s why rolling with a team made of know quantity members is the only sound way to go. If you find that your compatriots are wanting, the better guys didn’t want you bringing down their odds of living longer.
True, probably most of the fighters and soldiers didn't even know that their AK called AK-74 or AK-47 or their SKS called SKS-45 : ) In the Army they used to issue AKS or AKSU and you were in some unlucky infantry unit or Navy then just AK which they called "paddle". All were 5.45, so in our today's terminology is was AKS-74, AKSU-74 and AK-74. Besides pure soviet made AK-47 or AKS from this chart probably exist only in museums or private collections, but I can be mistaken of course, just my observation based on limited experience, they might be still in service somewhere.
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The 5.56 and m4/m16 platforms enjoy reliable service due to standardized ammo. Try to run a random fist full of ammo you have found on the battlefield or a stash house is like finding other people's old .223 reloads and expecting them to run.
I bought my first AR in 1980. And as you stated, in all those years I have had a handfull of FTE/FTF. All were from mixed unknown ammo, crappy magazines, and me not cleaning the chamber after shooting countless dirty .22 rimfire rounds with my conversion kits. I have never had any failures with my SKSs or T81. For a SHTF rifle, I would have a tough time choosing? Take a Comm block gun, or US gun that has optics options and a rimfire kit? Either one is a great platform. End of the day, its about trigger time and muscle memory.
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i never seen operations with 5.45mm only the 7.62x39 ... i ve been in africa as well and never seen the little cartridge there as well
Regarding the 7.62x39 AKs, they are still in partial service in the Russian military, never having been phased out completely.
The majority of the 17 million older AKs the Russians are said to have in strategic reserve are in 7.62x39.
They're even buying some amount of new rifles in that caliber, in AK-15 guise.
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/657279
(translated)
The Russian Defense Ministry will receive 150,000. new Kalashnikovs in three years
Moscow. April 6. INTERFAX.RU - The Russian army will receive more than a hundred thousand Kalashnikov AK-12 and AK-15 assault rifles in the next three years, an informed source told Interfax.
"The Russian Defense Ministry and the Kalashnikov concern" have signed a three-year contract for the supply of 150,000. AK-12 and AK-15," the source said.
According to him, the army will receive 50,000. 2019, 2020 and 2021.
On December 20 last year, the Kalashnikov Media portal reported that the concern had started the first deliveries of AK-12 assault rifles as part of the state defense order. The volume of the shipment was 2.5 thousand machines.
The concern noted that the Russian Defense Ministry is the only customer of the AK-12, which will gradually replace the AK-74M in the troops.
The AK-12 was developed as part of the Ratnik program as an element of a promising complex of equipment for Russian Armed Forces soldiers.
New assault rifles - AK-12, AK-15 (Kalashnikov concern) and AEK-971 (Degtyarev plant) were tested for the current "Ratnik" machine guns. The Russian Defense Ministry said earlier that these assault rifles have been adopted.
In 2017, in an interview with Interfax, former Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation (now the head of Roscosmos) Dmitry Rogozin said that the AK-12 will become an army assault rifle, AEK-971 will be armed with special forces.
The majority of the 17 million older AKs the Russians are said to have in strategic reserve are in 7.62x39.
They're even buying some amount of new rifles in that caliber, in AK-15 guise.
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/657279
(translated)
The Russian Defense Ministry will receive 150,000. new Kalashnikovs in three years
Moscow. April 6. INTERFAX.RU - The Russian army will receive more than a hundred thousand Kalashnikov AK-12 and AK-15 assault rifles in the next three years, an informed source told Interfax.
"The Russian Defense Ministry and the Kalashnikov concern" have signed a three-year contract for the supply of 150,000. AK-12 and AK-15," the source said.
According to him, the army will receive 50,000. 2019, 2020 and 2021.
On December 20 last year, the Kalashnikov Media portal reported that the concern had started the first deliveries of AK-12 assault rifles as part of the state defense order. The volume of the shipment was 2.5 thousand machines.
The concern noted that the Russian Defense Ministry is the only customer of the AK-12, which will gradually replace the AK-74M in the troops.
The AK-12 was developed as part of the Ratnik program as an element of a promising complex of equipment for Russian Armed Forces soldiers.
New assault rifles - AK-12, AK-15 (Kalashnikov concern) and AEK-971 (Degtyarev plant) were tested for the current "Ratnik" machine guns. The Russian Defense Ministry said earlier that these assault rifles have been adopted.
In 2017, in an interview with Interfax, former Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation (now the head of Roscosmos) Dmitry Rogozin said that the AK-12 will become an army assault rifle, AEK-971 will be armed with special forces.
Can't believe this circus of a thread is going on.
I'm guessing all the LARP'ing fields are closed, so you guys are stuck in your mom's basement wearing your knockoff sh*tty chicom Condor gear, fantasizing about which rifle you would take into battle once the boogaloo comes to your neighborhood.
The ar15 is a better weapon system. Period. As someone who's owned both, the ar15 is a much, much more refined weapon system. It's had the advantage of having decades of evolution of refinement (largely due to the US civilian market), while the AK has been stuck in the 50's.
I wouldn't want to get shot at with either, but 10 times out of 10 I would pick up an ar15 over an AK.
I'm guessing all the LARP'ing fields are closed, so you guys are stuck in your mom's basement wearing your knockoff sh*tty chicom Condor gear, fantasizing about which rifle you would take into battle once the boogaloo comes to your neighborhood.
The ar15 is a better weapon system. Period. As someone who's owned both, the ar15 is a much, much more refined weapon system. It's had the advantage of having decades of evolution of refinement (largely due to the US civilian market), while the AK has been stuck in the 50's.
I wouldn't want to get shot at with either, but 10 times out of 10 I would pick up an ar15 over an AK.
That's like saying a Yugo lived up to its expectations (mass produced POS, like an AK), versus the Lamborghini, which had a lot of years of refinement.
I'm not sure about you, but I'd take a lambo over a Yugo any day of the week.
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Jealous?
Jealous of what? Their Condor tactical inhaler pouches?
