Installation help: Barrel tight to upper - Solved thanks!

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MRA barrel to MDI upper. Feels very tight to push together.

-Get the receiver stable, something to protect the muzzle threads, and hammer her home?

-Heat the upper? Any negative long term effects from heating it/heating it multiple times? Will this bake out the 33ms from the barrel extension, maybe use a high temp grease instead?

-Freeze barrel? (will this steel even shrink?)


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Tight is good.

I installed a barrel with a plated extension recently, and it was a very tight fit. I heated the receiver, and froze the barrel, as you suggest, and then just used to barrel nut to drive the two together. You might try that.

You shouldn't need to heat the receiver "multiple times." Once should be enough. Consider that heating the receiver to, say, 125 deg C is probably rather less than the heat generated by "lots of firing."

Wear oven mitts!
 
Take a heat gun to the receiver for 15 seconds, should slide right in and be no hotter than shooting it a lot.
 
Tight is good.

I installed a barrel with a plated extension recently, and it was a very tight fit. I heated the receiver, and froze the barrel, as you suggest, and then just used to barrel nut to drive the two together. You might try that.

You shouldn't need to heat the receiver "multiple times." Once should be enough. Consider that heating the receiver to, say, 125 deg C is probably rather less than the heat generated by "lots of firing."

Wear oven mitts!

After heating, when inserting the barrel, make sure that the mortise in the receiver is aligned with the tenon on the barrel, even slightly out of alignment it will not go.
 
Thanks for all the info!
Agreed, tight fit is best.

I only saw the above video after I did it.

My main concern with putting heat (torch) to something is normally I do that to a old/rusted part. Or if its a new part, the finish is not a concern.

I put the upper in the lower, so it was stable on my table.
Lubed it up and the barrel extension. (grease)
I got it to around 140F (using laser temp gun). I also applied heat not only to the upper's threads(which is what the video did) but the entire length of the upper that the barrel extension would go. Also some from inside of the upper shoving the flame through the ejection port.

Grabbed the barrel and it slide on just plot no resistance easy! By the time I realized how well it went on, it must have cooled enough(half a second!) I could not rotate it the 1/8" needed to get the little nub to line up with the upper. Doh!!!! I knew going into it will need to pay attention, but with doing it so fast I messed up.
This was partly the reason I did not freeze the barrel, I worried the heat transfer (steel to cerakote aluminum transfer heat???) could work against heating the upper.

Heated it a second time. Same as the first time. Got it rotated, slid down.

Was concerned if it was fully on or not. Heated a 3rd time, tapped with mallet on end of barrel. She is fully on!
Using hands applied pressure to keep the barrel pushed into the upper for the next 30 seconds or so as it cooled. Minimize risk of it cooling and ending up slightly crooked.


After watching that video, I would probably mount the barrel in a vice in the future and heat the upper like they did. Will pay more attention to the nub also. Next one I will get in one push!
Would like a better system to apply even pressure while the upper cools. Thought it was odd when they did it they just left go of it instantly hanging all angled. I know it cools fast. But what if it happens to work its way 0.001" as it cools/angles/walks.
Will get a 1" dowel if ever needing to remove it. Good idea, I would have just struggle fooked pulling like a retard.

Got this done last night, but took a while to get the upper hand guard to not be touching the gas block (slight shimming on the barrel nut to hand guard surface) to get it even.
Will probably have a thread in the near future on some trigger issues now....

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Keep an eye on Crappie Tire's sales in the future and get a cheap heat gun. I did the same thing yesterday, switched out my Norinco with an Aero. Lubed up the proper spots with Moly Grease, about 30 seconds on low, and it slipped right on...making a shim for the Barrel Nut was the royal pain this time, always something.
 
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