Whatever you pick the best thing you can do is save for the best scope possible. If you want to be shooting at 1000m + you cant hit what you cant see and that is where good glass comes in. Not sure what rifle you have but if you can get a better optic and grow with it you will be ahead vs trading up multiple times.
Leupold vs Vortex
- Thread starter shroh
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my consideration is where the scope is made.
I have a bushell - Made in Japan, and Leupold - Made in the state.
The highend Vortex are used to made in Japan, but going elsewhere, check your particular model / scope before heading over your credit card.
I have a bushell - Made in Japan, and Leupold - Made in the state.
The highend Vortex are used to made in Japan, but going elsewhere, check your particular model / scope before heading over your credit card.
darkvaider123
Member
- Location
- Scarborough, ON
I personally pick vortex due to their awesome warranty. If you the guy who bang your gun a lot or just be ruff then that’s your pick
That list is not wrong..
Korth Group Ltd
Regular
Something to consider - there are warranties and there are guarantees. Leupold offers a lifetime guarantee on all of their scopes (whether you are the first or fifth owner). Should your scope fail, you send it to us for repair. Once completed, you will receive your scope back. Other brands (not limited to only one) simply throw a lot of the defective scopes away, as they are unable to be repaired. This is due to two reasons: their scopes are so inexpensive to produce, there is no financial sense to spend the time to repair; and the heavy use of glue in the production process will not allow the scopes to disassemble without damaging the scope.
One poster made an excellent point about the source country. There are a handful of manufacturers in China and the Philippines that produce optics for several brands. Some of which are built in the same factory, with the same quality controls and technology. The only difference is the marketing to the buyer.
The sport optics industry has no standardization, which allow for any claim to be made by a brand, and no way to ensure what they say is accurate.
This post is intended to be informational, and not at all to be taken in a negative or accusational way. We are open to share what we can on the realities of the optics industry.
KGL
One poster made an excellent point about the source country. There are a handful of manufacturers in China and the Philippines that produce optics for several brands. Some of which are built in the same factory, with the same quality controls and technology. The only difference is the marketing to the buyer.
The sport optics industry has no standardization, which allow for any claim to be made by a brand, and no way to ensure what they say is accurate.
This post is intended to be informational, and not at all to be taken in a negative or accusational way. We are open to share what we can on the realities of the optics industry.
KGL
BenchrestJohn
CGN Regular
- Location
- Maple Ridge, BC
Go Leupold. Scope for life.
BenchrestJohn
CGN Regular
- Location
- Maple Ridge, BC
Very good points, I own 7 Leupolds, 3 hunting, 3 competition, one tactical. Only got the tactical one brand new, the rest used. I sent them to Leupold, came back lke new. Awesome tracking, just a pleasure to own them.
I have two Vortex scopes
One viper 4x16 50 mm and a diamondback HP 4x16 42 mm. The viper's glass for some odd reason is nothing compared to the glass on the diamondback and it shouldn't be like that.
The Nikon Prostaff I have has better glass than the viper I have.
Functionally, I can't complain about them. One sits on a 30-06 and the other on a 300 win mag.
I probably wont buy another vortex.
One viper 4x16 50 mm and a diamondback HP 4x16 42 mm. The viper's glass for some odd reason is nothing compared to the glass on the diamondback and it shouldn't be like that.
The Nikon Prostaff I have has better glass than the viper I have.
Functionally, I can't complain about them. One sits on a 30-06 and the other on a 300 win mag.
I probably wont buy another vortex.
Please explain what you are referring to with regards to Vortex. Are you suggesting that Vortex being quick to update and innovate is what people are sending the optics in for "updating"? I am not aware of Vortex or any other optics company recently requiring consumers to send in their products for some sort of improving from the original design and manufacture. The only reason to send in a scope for warranty is a failure (or perceived failure) of the optic. Failure of the optic should never be seen as the natural and expected result of updating and innovation. We sell a lot of optics with Vortex and Leupold being two of my largest lines so I am very aware of the pros and cons of each one. Phil.
nowarningshot
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
My issue with Leupold lies in the people, actually one person, i dealt with over the phone. The one time i needed warranty, on a second hand scope, he was incredibly rude and hung up. I obviously couldnt prove it was bought through them. Forced me to get permits from Ottawa, send it to Portland for warranty. Their solution for a scope without windage adjustment, buy Leupold windage adjustable bases.
I sold all my Leupold, i will stick to inferior brands if it doesnt require dealing with Korth, or being without my property eight months.
I sold all my Leupold, i will stick to inferior brands if it doesnt require dealing with Korth, or being without my property eight months.
Just for clarification, what is exactly the difference between this "Leupold Guarantee" and e.g. Burris' Forever Warranty, Bushnell,s Iron Glad Warranty, Vortex's VIP Warranty,...?
Bushnell has some scope models that aren't warrantable.
Hit'n miss over the years.
Can't say that 'bout Leupold.
I had a B&L that I should of said fruck the warranty and got Phil @ Trace to fix.
I'd still have that goll dang I like scope.
The first replacement they sent me wasn't what we agreed upon, so freight my end twice.
Got jypt'd on replacement binos as well.
Called down south and they told me to tell them to maker right.
Again, two freight charges my way.
But then again, ymmv.
Hit'n miss over the years.
Can't say that 'bout Leupold.
I had a B&L that I should of said fruck the warranty and got Phil @ Trace to fix.
I'd still have that goll dang I like scope.
The first replacement they sent me wasn't what we agreed upon, so freight my end twice.
Got jypt'd on replacement binos as well.
Called down south and they told me to tell them to maker right.
Again, two freight charges my way.
But then again, ymmv.
Have you looked at some of the top-end Scorpion stuff? Life time warranty, great glass, amazing workmanship, good price, and distributed by Scorpion Outdoors in MB. While not built here, they are distributed in Canada by Canadians, and with the great quality, it may be worth a look. Some have told me that they are superior to Vortex. I only used the mid priced ones so far, and they are amazing.
I like your product and would most certainly choose Leupold from my limited experience considering these two brands. Your post however is misleading and accusational. If country of origin is paramount should we not include Austria, Germany and maybe even Czechoslovakia in that list? If different quality can not come out of the same factory why would we purchase a VX6 over a Freedom model for example or even a Redfield?
Of course different quality can in deed come out of the same country or even the same factory. You get what you pay from a manufacturer but you must insist on the quality control and quality of glass that you have paid for. You can not simply change brand tags on the same scope or sport optic and with superior marketing sell it as an alpha product. The hunting and birding community are the most discriminating folks on the planet when it comes to quality and in this day an age there is no sneaking by an inferior product. You can't just make any claim by any brand. Marketing to the buyer is not the only difference as you suggest.
It should also be noted that I have purchased some excellent Leupold binoculars with a different country of origin. The glass and built quality was very good. I have and have had several Leupold scopes and all have been excellent.
I believe there are very good reasons for choosing one country over another but that is a completely different discussion.
Thanks for the lol.
I can think of a million reasons and examples to counter that claim.
Google any optic you like on places like the bird forums or US hunting sites. There is more accurate detailed information at your finger tips than you will ever comprehend. If people are too stupid to do a little research on a product, then they will get what they deserve. Please list a few of those million examples of products that were not exposed as junk and are fooling all the folks, except you of course.
