My uncles used to make the women push bush. Give them each a couple chunks of 2x4 a foot long, and send them into the thick ####. Ah, the good old days, before womens liberation
I wonder why mom hated "hunting" with her brothers so much.
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My uncles used to make the women push bush. Give them each a couple chunks of 2x4 a foot long, and send them into the thick ####. Ah, the good old days, before womens liberation
I wonder why mom hated "hunting" with her brothers so much.
Game farms are tracks of land where caged birds are released just for your hunt. They are all over the place. Look in the back of any Ontario hunting magazine.
Since it is a business hunting regulations do not apply. Gun regs do(IIRC)!!!!!
Here is one in your area. You can rent a dog or sometimes there a kennel members looking to exercise their dogs. Worth looking into.
Here is one in your area
http://www.banin.com/
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During the shotgun season in Southern Ontario we all use the game chaser method and it is legal, just go for a drive and count the orange coats.
WRONG still have to have a license to chase deer, sorry
from the regs
HUNTIN
Includes lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of, pursuing,
chasing or shooting at wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is killed,
injured, captured or harassed. You need a hunting licence to do any of
these things, except where the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act states
otherwise.
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I don't mean to pick on you, but the regulations state very clearly what is to be considered hunting. Your kids/nephews ARE hunting when they push the game to you. It is clearly in the aid of your hunt and constitutes an unfair advantage . By law.
So if I wanted to introduce someone to hunting and I take them for a quick hunt in the bush.... I see the game, point them out and give that person the firearm to shoot.... it's poaching.... even though there was no advantage gained from my action other than letting the guy have a feel of what is the hunt all about - with a closure.
And you say you'd report it.
All this while you stated you'll quit hunting if a person doing their job by enforcing the law you're clearly breaking.
I don't get it. If I met you in the filed, by the standards you displayed here, I should report you too, and make an official complaint, not just a call - to make sure matters are followed through.
While I agree with you that kids should be covered under your license until they're old enough to hunt by themselves, I don't like double standards one bit.... and you should think about it too.
I hope my post did not offend you. I was only pointing out what I think is right.
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No offence taken. As someone has mentioned its a grey area and you as a person have to draw your own line.
I'm not an english major and never was any good at, thats why I try to keep what I type to a minimum. I dont want to confuse myself
Its like speeding. The law says that you maximum is 100 km/h. Does anyone follow this to the letter? NO!
Now comes the gray part. How much speeding is ok? 10,20,30,40 over the speed limit????????
My kids jumping on a pile would be akin to going 5-10 km/h over the speed limit. Illegal yes, but accepted. Giving someone your gun, having them kill an animal and putting yur tag on it would be (to me anyways) like going 160km/h in a 100 zone, illegal and unacceptable.
And if I got charged for going 5 km/h over the limit I would be severally pissed. if giving up driving were even remotely an option I would consider that to.
It is not a double standard per say but a limit on how far one stretches the laws. Would I report spaz if his buddy was kicking piles. NO!
I hope this helps explain my twisted thinking. I'd report you too, if you were going 160 in a 100 zone.
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cdngunner I know cops that ticket people doing 5km over the speed limit and I know a few COs personally that would charge you with that mthod of hunting. Its accepted by you sure but not all COs would accept it. I'm not saying dont do it, to be honest I could care less, not my license at risk and its not me paying the fine. But I do know that I and I'm sure many others would report law breakers. Hell I report careless drivers on the highway to the OPP by calling *677 too.. lol
Just remember, even when you think no one is watching someone very well may be...
Good luck with your hunts.
Just remember, even when you think no one is watching someone very well may be...
Good luck with your hunts.
Unless it was in a school zone, how many of those would get thrown out of court?
I've met a few CO's too, and they deffinately would know the difference between a 9 year old and an adult.
Hi-jack...
Why is it that kids under 18(?) can fish without a license?
hmmmm maybe it would be interesting to change the rules so that kids under age 12 would not need a license to go small game hunting with a parent who holds a license.
hmmm got the wheels turning anyway!
I agree with this one. Kinds should e covered by a parents' license.
In ON however, the "good" sport is fishing. Hunting is not even on the page summary (besides a link to regulations). I wrote the Minister about it.... got an email from a nice lady and she said she'd like to hear from us.... she did. Nothing changed.
They want fishing.... but disavow hunting .
Back on topic (sorta')... as an explanation..... the grey area is - for me - different than yours. There is no gain in hunting opportunity by handing a rifle to a non-hunter to make the shot. If however the same non-hunter pushes bush or jumps a pile.... he helps you get the game, and therefore aids in hunting.
I know in Europe anyone can be pushing bush, but you have to be at least a year or so an apprentice before you're even allowed to look at a gun. Do you agree with those standards?
So basically, because there is a grey area in the law, it would come down to hunter ethics. What one person interprets something as one way, can be seen by another as totally different (ex. the pushing vs handing the firearm to someone else). Both, as set out from what you guys had copied here as the definition of hunting, would be illegal, but because people see things differently, could possibly be justified to a CO. Whether the CO agrees with you or not, makes no difference. In the end, it is what you yourself consider ethical. Breaking the law is breaking the law, which is why I started the thread in the first place. To inquire BEFOREHAND to make sure what I had thought about was legal. Whether it is ethical or not, is different for everyone.
yup
Lets just say it would be a lot easier to justify a kid jumping on sticks then a non-licensed person carrying a firearm during hunting season.
Unfortunately even the laws are open to interpetation by CO's and the courts. So you'll never know what might happen.
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What law was broken here, when jack rabbits were plentyful and we used to have something called a jack drives. One day a jack was going to get away by crossing a highway (not a chicken) and a CO came alone and chased it with his vehicle along the paved highway turning back into the drive? The jack was shot, any offence here and this is the way it happened.
