In endless pursuit of a hybrid do anything precision rig
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Chassis' don't dictate precision, all things equal.
Get the one with the ergonomics that fit you and the features that you want.
Lol, all things are never equal...but my question was referring to the accuracy of the two weight estimates listed by various sources, not the accuracy of the finished rifle.
Lol, all things are never equal...but my question was referring to the accuracy of the two weight estimates listed by various sources, not the accuracy of the finished rifle.
Ah, gotcha!
One thing to keep in mind, is that the Bravo has lots of accessories to dress it up or dress it down. ARCA rails, spigots, NV bridges, weight kits, bag riders, etc. You can really outfit it to do anything. Leave it barebones for a lightish hunting rig, or dress it up to make it a fully capable PRS rifle.
I don't own an XRS, can't speak to it. I don't believe it has the modularity or the KRG and the accessory support, but I could be wrong.
Been very happy with my Bravo. Barney, I agree with the LOP spacer/screw gripe. That was one area I preferred the Magpul Hunter. Thankfully KRG heard those gripes and is releasing a toolless buttpad adjuster that adds LOP adjustment to the height/cant adjustment of their older adjuster. I liked that adjuster, but min LOP is 13.5" with no spacers so fitting to a small shooter could be a challenge. As for construction it is a large and very stiff aluminum block with a polymer skin bolted on up front for the forend and the buttstock bolted to the rear. Rigidity couldn't get much better if it all without simply adding weight for no realistic gain. You can drive a bipod harder than you would ever need to without flexing the forend. There's no real exposed aluminum, I feel you there. Holding aluminum in the cold is not fun. The grip is excellent IMO, one of the best features of the bravo. Thick, vertical, great thumb shelf, perfect reach to trigger. You won't miss your HS stocks when you get behind the bravo. I haven't handled the XRS but others seem to like it. Personally I don't like the looks of it but MDT usually does a good job listening to the market and bringing innovative products out that work well.
I've had a couple of chassis-type stocks in the past (an MDT and an Oryx) and although they are comfortable to shoot, I am first and foremost a hunter. Just can't get used to the handling of a true pistol grip rifle in the field, and (as trivial as it sounds...) I simply detest not being able to quickly and smoothly move my thumb up and across to work the safety. I see plenty of "pro" hunters in videos who actually release their grip to manipulate the safety with their index fingers; not for me. And swinging my often-frozen thumb all the way around the pistol grip and over the top of the stock body is ridiculous. For hunting that might entail being "on the gun" waiting for a shot for extended periods...spelled C-O-Y-O-T-E...that just won't work.
So one of these semi-chassis gizmos looks interesting. I will be trying at least one of them on a hunting rifle this winter; the combination of comfortable vertical pistol-grip and easily accessible safety is appealing. Leaning towards the MDT at the moment, but the supposedly lighter weight of the Bravo might tip the balance.
I don't care about the ease of adjusting stock dimensions; I will set it once and that's it. We aren't all competition shooters; some of us just like to go hunting and shoot stuff without timers/audience/arbitrary rules/numerical scoring. If anybody has any input on these stocks from a hunting perspective, I hope you can chime in; it would be appreciated.
So one of these semi-chassis gizmos looks interesting. I will be trying at least one of them on a hunting rifle this winter; the combination of comfortable vertical pistol-grip and easily accessible safety is appealing. Leaning towards the MDT at the moment, but the supposedly lighter weight of the Bravo might tip the balance.
I don't care about the ease of adjusting stock dimensions; I will set it once and that's it. We aren't all competition shooters; some of us just like to go hunting and shoot stuff without timers/audience/arbitrary rules/numerical scoring. If anybody has any input on these stocks from a hunting perspective, I hope you can chime in; it would be appreciated.
longarm21, in re-reading your original post I see you are repeating the weight disparity as I have seen it mentioned in numerous different sources. In your original list of comparison specs, you list the XRS as 3.9 pounds, the Bravo as 2.9...1 pound different. Two paragraphs down, you mention the weight difference of 1.5 pounds! Not pointing any fingers here, I have seen all sorts of numbers on various sites. To me, a few ounces is negligible, but a pound is not...and a pound+ is definitely not.
Has anyone actually weighed these two stocks? Quoting numbers from manufacturers' specs or ads simply isn't reliable. Reviews should be reliable, but there's a lot of disagreement there as well. What do these dang things weigh???
Has anyone actually weighed these two stocks? Quoting numbers from manufacturers' specs or ads simply isn't reliable. Reviews should be reliable, but there's a lot of disagreement there as well. What do these dang things weigh???
I can't find where I noted the weight of both the Bravo and the XRS but I had them both (have since sold the Bravo) and weighed them on the hanging scale in my garage. I can't recall the exact numbers but the Bravo, with spigot and full length arca rail was approx 1/4 lbs lighter than the XRS with full length arca rail. You could look up the KRG arca spigot and add that to the weight difference if you like, but for me the Bravo is too short without the spigot (with which it is the same length as the XRS) so I saw that as more of an apples to apples comparison (and was too lazy to pull the spigot off anyways).
I was referring to rugbydaves stated weight difference as I too would prefer the longer forend achieved by adding the spigot.
I am currently looking at getting the XRS, so far I like what I am seeing based on reviews online.
