New Trudeau Blair rules on shotguns

Juster said:
We seem to have reached the point where it doesn't matter what the law says. Even Blair agrees. We have a million criminals created overnight. Or do we? You be the judge.
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right you are. when we have a minister telling us to ignore the law as it is written and giving some citizens a pass while throwing the full weight of the law at others . he has created a situation were the law is an ass. the way this law was enacted is criminal in my opinion.
 
canvasback said:
It is amazing to me that there is so much discussion about this issue when the behavior of lawyers and prosecutors is so well known and with so much historical precedent. In every area of law, not just pertaining to firearms. There is even the expression "The letter of the law". Lawyers argue and win based on where commas get put. Nothing else matters but the actual wording.

It may not be the intent of Trudeau today. The RCMP may have an opinion about it. Blair may have tweeted. But if it gets in front of a judge, and you can be sure some overzealous cop and prosecutor will make that happen one day, then the merits of the case will be based on exactly what the law says and not what SAAMI or the RCMP or Bill Blair think. The only way to make this not be the case is for the government to change the wording of the OIC or to pass a subsequent law rendering that portion of the OIC null and void because it's been replaced with updated wording.

Just because the above is true, doesn't mean I will do anything different regarding 12 gauge shotguns with chokes. I will be ignoring the prohibition and using them as i always have. And if that means one day i get charged, so be it.
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Thank you.
 
canvasback said:
It is amazing to me that there is so much discussion about this issue when the behavior of lawyers and prosecutors is so well known and with so much historical precedent. In every area of law, not just pertaining to firearms. There is even the expression "The letter of the law". Lawyers argue and win based on where commas get put. Nothing else matters but the actual wording.

It may not be the intent of Trudeau today. The RCMP may have an opinion about it. Blair may have tweeted. But if it gets in front of a judge, and you can be sure some overzealous cop and prosecutor will make that happen one day, then the merits of the case will be based on exactly what the law says and not what SAAMI or the RCMP or Bill Blair think. The only way to make this not be the case is for the government to change the wording of the OIC or to pass a subsequent law rendering that portion of the OIC null and void because it's been replaced with updated wording.

Just because the above is true, doesn't mean I will do anything different regarding 12 gauge shotguns with chokes. I will be ignoring the prohibition and using them as i always have. And if that means one day i get charged, so be it.
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SHUT UP

SAAMI says you are good, twitter says you are good, we good nothing to see here LOL

Shawn
 
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hunterhenderson said:
RCMP website has a clarification on their site that shows all 12 gauges pass and how they measure the bore just ahead of the chamber, case closed, business as usual with 12 gauge
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hold on big trucker!! we still need clarification even if the 20mm thing doesn't apply (which it surely does by the letter of the law). Time will tell and #truthmatters

let's see what the lying sack of chit has to say:


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Big-boss-man said:
hold on big trucker!! we still need clarification even if the 20mm thing doesn't apply (which it surely does by the letter of the law). Time will tell and #truthmatters

let's see what the lying sack of chit has to say:


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Where's this dude getting his 2700fps 730 grain slugs from?
 
The libs are forcing us to resort to guns not suitable for hunting, e.g. there will be more crippled birds when not using adequate shotguns in a federal dictated gun use.
 
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