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McEwan's chances of coming out of this alive would have been so much better if the RCMP had handed over the scene to CANSOFCOM. In fact, she probably would still be alive today. And only Crosson dead.

You don’t have any idea about the circumstances of the incident either I see. More uninformed nonsense.
 
Guy on the right will be your K9 operator...



All true, but what the hell are they being issued ir lasers, nvgs, and silencers?

You think they getting ready to raid your house DT and need every advantage they can buy. :p

Ahaha

The equipment choice is easy to explain:

-NVGs are used in low light operation and CQB. Lights can be good in some case, but in other situation, they can do more bad than good. Giving away your position, but the wordt in the blinding effect of very bright lights. Light beams also create a tunnel vision.

-IR Laser tag along the NVG, that easy

-supressors: anyone that has fired live round in a building knows it sucks

I wish the Infantry could get decent kit like that.
 
Ahaha

The equipment choice is easy to explain:

-NVGs are used in low light operation and CQB. Lights can be good in some case, but in other situation, they can do more bad than good. Giving away your position, but the wordt in the blinding effect of very bright lights. Light beams also create a tunnel vision.

-IR Laser tag along the NVG, that easy

-supressors: anyone that has fired live round in a building knows it sucks

I wish the Infantry could get decent kit like that.

100% agreement. Really, how many close quarter battles or low light engagements are our local RCMP ERT involved in?

To put things in perspective, 3 armored vehicles will pay for minimum 30 officers at the border for a year. What do we think would be more beneficial for police officer and citizen safety? 30 extra boots on the ground searching every container that comes into Canada for guns or drugs or armored vehicle that stops 50cal?

Good kit but complete waste of tax payer money by having it issued to Police Departments.

I will see if I have some of our price lists, and if I do. I can do a $$ cost breakdown of the kit per officer.q
 
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-supressors: anyone that has fired live round in a building knows it sucks

Anyone that has fired live rounds, period, knows it sucks. Doubly so in buildings, though...

You'd think public and private health (with regards to noise pollution) would be a critical reason to push for the legalization and utilization of suppressors by every shooter.
 
Anyone that has fired live rounds, period, knows it sucks. Doubly so in buildings, though...

You'd think public and private health (with regards to noise pollution) would be a critical reason to push for the legalization and utilization of suppressors by every shooter.

Yup. But that would be sensible. You're referring to politicians. Sensible... Politicians... Hmmmmmm..... Not two words which seem to get together very frequently. And if you consider the Liberal perspective, steelmanning their argument, you realize that suppressors are far too sneaky and far too dangerous to the health of paranoid politicians, especially politicians who wear bullet proof vests to public meet and greet sessions. So no, not going to happen. While suppressors for airguns and firearms are pretty easy to obtain and relatively cheap in the UK, I expect they'll soon be banned there as well. I mean, they've made it difficult to buy butter knives. Forks even. Suppressors have to be next on the list. Not bomb vests though, those are still cool, provided you're following the politically correct faith.
 
It's not about 'dangerous'; it's about occupational health and safety legislation, 'loudness', and 'due diligence'.

Some police forces have actually cited public safety concerns and liability for law suits if the public suffers hearing loss from the discharge of a patrol carbine.
 
Anyone that has fired live rounds, period, knows it sucks. Doubly so in buildings, though...

You'd think public and private health (with regards to noise pollution) would be a critical reason to push for the legalization and utilization of suppressors by every shooter.

Be careful what you wish for. I agree with pushing the health and safety angle but the nanny statists prone to going full retard could quickly flip from prohibited to mandatory in short order. A lot of enfield hunters wint be happy about spending hundreds of dollars getting their barrels threaded.
 
LOL cam clothing, multiple mags, gaiters, are these dudes in Afghanistan or Canada? I recall, oh it has to be early 90's in Pet. One of the swat teams, may have been RCMP out of Ottawa. Came up and we had to supply rappel masters and the like. I remember laughing, as they were all decked out with web gear pre cbt load vests. Multiple canteens, ammo pouches, ass packs, knives taped to the shoulder straps the list goes on. Faces cammed up and wearing tiger stripes etcetera. The police have become Soldiers. Gone are the days neighbourhood foot patrol armed with revolvers and shotguns. Have to make room for the latest automatic smg and armoured vehicles. Certainly can see there attitude is becoming "us & them". They wonder why some people resent them.
 
LOL cam clothing, multiple mags, gaiters, are these dudes in Afghanistan or Canada? I recall, oh it has to be early 90's in Pet. One of the swat teams, may have been RCMP out of Ottawa. Came up and we had to supply rappel masters and the like. I remember laughing, as they were all decked out with web gear pre cbt load vests. Multiple canteens, ammo pouches, ass packs, knives taped to the shoulder straps the list goes on. Faces cammed up and wearing tiger stripes etcetera. The police have become Soldiers. Gone are the days neighbourhood foot patrol armed with revolvers and shotguns. Have to make room for the latest automatic smg and armoured vehicles. Certainly can see there attitude is becoming "us & them". They wonder why some people resent them.

Because the police force becomes a cult-like in group, and anyone who doesnt like their authority is a threat. Of course the very powerful want their attack dogs to be well equipped, lest you know, someone hurts an oligarch.
 
100% agreement. Really, how many close quarter battles or low light engagements are our local RCMP ERT involved in?

To put things in perspective, 3 armored vehicles will pay for minimum 30 officers at the border for a year. What do we think would be more beneficial for police officer and citizen safety? 30 extra boots on the ground searching every container that comes into Canada for guns or drugs or armored vehicle that stops 50cal?

Good kit but complete waste of tax payer money by having it issued to Police Departments.

I will see if I have some of our price lists, and if I do. I can do a $$ cost breakdown of the kit per officer.q

100% agreement as well.

During a training, we had to clear a large warehouse (no not the bar in Pet). About 1/4 in, power was shut down as part of the scenario. A bunch of our guys didnt watch black hawk down and left their NVG at the shack.

But I agree that money would be better spent somewhere else... cough CAF cough :p
 
Be careful what you wish for. I agree with pushing the health and safety angle but the nanny statists prone to going full retard could quickly flip from prohibited to mandatory in short order. A lot of enfield hunters wint be happy about spending hundreds of dollars getting their barrels threaded.

I would LOVE to see that happen

Anyone that has fired live rounds, period, knows it sucks. Doubly so in buildings, though...

You'd think public and private health (with regards to noise pollution) would be a critical reason to push for the legalization and utilization of suppressors by every shooter.

Especially since so many countries allow it for this exact reason
 
I'm not sure if ERT is allowed to have beards or not, but when the covid thing started we were all ordered to shave them off. I miss my beard.

Hey fox vegas baby, I know an RCMP guy out there. Its funny watching this thread. I see some CAF members and coppers kicking it in here. Whats up gents.

All the guys getting hyped up about a laser is funny. Aside from the obvious intended use, have you even pointed a laser at someone that has a weapon attached to it ? Visible lasers are a very good mental deterrent.

I was chatting with a friend who worked g20. Mounted a laser on his bean bag gun.. People eventually learned when the laser hit them, a bag was coming shortly after... They stopped doing dumb #### pretty quick when that laser hit... Also a good way to point people out in a crowd to direct other units to the individual.

Give the CAF and Police any gear they think is useful!
 
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For what? They couldn't even get a chopper in the air over a 12hr period. FFS!

Very true. The new OIC now bans my Stinger MANPADS and my Javelin ATGMs ffs.

Why didn't they include Leopard tanks and CF-18 fighter jets in that OIC.

Now I feel defenseless.

As I stated in another thread "The militarization of police forces" wtf are these Operators

preppin' for.

The color matching cans are great_"if they only save one eardrum":jerkit:
 
The fact of the matter is that "ERT" teams deal with drunk/stoned domestics and serving parking ticket warrants every day (just to keep in practice you know)...


The actual number of genuine events for which an "ERT" team is justified is about 3 a year in Canada.


yet the local "ERT" rolls 3 shifts and armoured vehicles -

In reality they are a great way to spend excess money and create an awesome "ski" team for the international inter agency athletic events.

This happens in AB too.:rolleyes: They have to roll out the AFV for parades here to try and justify the enormous, untendered, 340K expense_but Tacticool.
 
haha. Did you get this information about from the media?

What makes you believe that tactical team members are issuing parking tickets? Are you a tactical team member? Are you a police officer? Or do you just get all this information because as a gun owner you automatically become an expert on the daily operations of police work?


Because im sorry but you are greatly incorrect on your statement. 99% of incidents involvement ANY emergency response unit of ANY police service do not get published in the media. And what makes you believe that tactical teams arent deployed on a regular basis? The ignorance in your comments are worthy of headline act on just for laughs

With all due respect, you have no clue as to what you are talking about

You have no clue. I go to my local Superstore and find a fully kitted out TST member_with carbine standing near the exit.

WTF I think to myself. I go up to him and ask him if there's an active shooter in the store. You should have seen the look he

gave me. I asked whether that carbine was used to take lives or preserve them_no answer.

I later checked up on this guy_he was working overtime as security because of liquor store robberies happening_I just shook my head.

I was going to ask him if they ever taught him the 21 ft. rule at the academy_ Tacticool idiot_has a knife about a foot down clipped on his vest.

Nuff said.
 
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