Accepting what will likely happen and hoping that doesn’t at the same time. A pragmatic optimist I suppose.
Ghost loading while waterfowl hunting.
- Thread starter new210/22
- Start date
Accepting what will likely happen and hoping that doesn’t at the same time. A pragmatic optimist I suppose.
^ So any shotgun that can be ghost loaded must have the magazine plugged to only accept one round?
The word "unless" in the reg seems like it might have some importance to the debate...
The topic of the thread is ghost loading, so I am not talking about having a magazine that holds more than two rounds. I am talking a shotgun with the plug installed that limits the magazine to two rounds, but can be ghost loaded to hold four rounds. If I am using such a shotgun, and I only have three rounds in the gun, good luck convicting me , just because it is possible to load four rounds by ghost loading. Now if an officer is sitting 1/4 mile away and claims that he heard/saw me fire four rounds, and the plug is installed ,limiting the magazine to two rounds, how can he prove that the gun was ghost loaded? He doesn't know whether I was ghost loading the gun, or whether I simply loaded another round between shots. And since we usually are in willow blinds, all that he would see in most cases, is the barrel protruding from the blind.
Anytime that the ministry has checked on me either fishing or hunting they always seem to pop out of no where. They sure know how to keep those big white 3/4 ton crews out of sight. Always been legal. If someone believes that getting that extra round out is worth the chance of confiscation of firearm and all equipment, confiscation of vehicle, confiscation of game, fines, court costs, license revoke, prohib from hunting, retake of hunting course and further possible search and seizures, and ontop of that having your name plastered in the papers, then I guess they don't have a clue how the ministry operates. That person has no place in my circle or the hunting society.
Jeeeeshuzz H F Kripes.
Nutt'in taynt illeegawl till yewse gitzs yer arse awl kawt.
Try and be sumwhat professional OP.
After two becummith three regardless awf dizz newday'yin age math.
Always one in the crowd aye Rickie?
Nutt'in taynt illeegawl till yewse gitzs yer arse awl kawt.
Try and be sumwhat professional OP.
After two becummith three regardless awf dizz newday'yin age math.
Always one in the crowd aye Rickie?
Not too sure anybody could figure out how to "ghost load" one of these things! LOL
Seriously though, in Canada you can only legally hold three in the gun why try to "game " the situation, what are you actually out there for?
Cat
Seriously though, in Canada you can only legally hold three in the gun why try to "game " the situation, what are you actually out there for?
Cat
Not too sure anybody could figure out how to "ghost load" one of these things! LOL
Seriously though, in Canada you can only legally hold three in the gun why try to "game " the situation, what are you actually out there for?
Cat
Classic, you show them
es, and you could pull the plug and get away with it as if you saw a CO closing on you replacement takes only a few seconds with most shotguns..
I have never had the plug out of either of my waterfowl guns, as I have no reason to do so. We limit out too quickly most days anyways.
Not too sure anybody could figure out how to "ghost load" one of these things! LOL
Seriously though, in Canada you can only legally hold three in the gun why try to "game " the situation, what are you actually out there for?
Cat
Nice! Who needs 4 rounds when you can do it in 2!
Kam, all these years I thought I understood you and now that you are addressing me directly I don’t understand what you are saying. It what way have I been unprofessional? I don’t intend to hunt this way, I don’t own a gun capable of it. I am not trying to argue it being legal or illegal and I am not advocating that we should be able to hunt this way. I am simply trying to ascertain if it would be legal based on the wording of the hunting regs.
And as another mentioned if one had a firearm where ghost loading was possible would they have to pin their mag to one round given that they could load 2+1+1?
And as another mentioned if one had a firearm where ghost loading was possible would they have to pin their mag to one round given that they could load 2+1+1?
Perhaps we have a different understanding of what "Ghost Load" means. The process I am referring to puts two (or more if not pinned for hunting) into the tube mag, one in the chamber and as you slowly drop the bolt you place another on the lifter tab UNDER the closed bolt. The process is explained clearly in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYfA0XpIG08
Try that with a Remington 1100 and it called a jammed gun and requires disassembly to get it working again. I think there are more shotguns that would jam up than there are that can be over loaded this way...
And I am sure threads like this will eventually get the attention of those in power and will result in more restrictions being made... quite possibly requiring any shotgun capable of loading on the lifter have a magazine plugged at 1... what a pain in the ass using that would be...
And I am sure threads like this will eventually get the attention of those in power and will result in more restrictions being made... quite possibly requiring any shotgun capable of loading on the lifter have a magazine plugged at 1... what a pain in the ass using that would be...
- Location
- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
A shotgun plugged to the legal limit of 2 in the tube that is capable of ghost loading would be hard for a co to catch as it’s plugged to the legal limit, a co would have to be close enough to watch you fire four round without port loading on the fly.
Technically if the plug is short enough it won’t allow the third shell to fully enter the tube, it only has to allow the shell on the litter to enter the tube far enough to allow the bolt to clear the shell. Definitely a grey area in terms of proving that someone was doing it, to be honest it would take me less time to port load a 4th shell that it would to screw around with loading one on the lifter. Combat loading or port loading is bloody fast if you practice it.
I don’t think you understand how ghost loading actually works, you load two in the tube one on the lifter and one in the chamber.
And that effectively illegally loads the gun with 4 rounds
Cat
- Location
- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
I’m not denying that ghost loading would be looked at as illegal, nor did I say that in my post.
So, your trolling to solicit a reaction ???
Wow, now I know this COVID Pandemic has really taken its toll .
Rob
No, I made this post because I am genuinely curious about the answer and what some folks here have to say about it. I do post it however, with the knowledge that these sorts of questions can certainly stir the pot. I post it because this is the type of debate I would have over a drink with friends.
Having reread the first line of my initial post it does come across as trolling. That wasn’t my intent in the wording, I simply meant to acknowledge the fact that it would be a divisive topic. I’ll let the wording stand as it is what I said, but not exactly what I meant.
