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Sig p226 shoots low 12” @ 30’
Hi all, just got my first sig, p226 select, in my hands 1 week from purchase date, Thank you Tenda. Range report last night found it shoots low by approx 12” at 30’. Had to have bottom on front sight flush with top of rear sight to hit center of target. I usually use a 6 o clock hold, Read a few threads on on sig sights and was not using the combat center hold so that would make me shoot low. Will go to range and try that but I don’t think it will raise me up 12”. Will also bench shoot it to get a more accurate drop number. Just using bulk ammo. What does the sig community say to my observation. What a beautiful fire arm, going to be hard going back to shooting the cz 75 and m&p.

Cheers
 
I only had a Sig clone in the past and can't remember what the sight pic was.

From your CGN handle, seems you want to shoot fast. And the fastest, reasonably accurate sight picture is the "combat" picture.

The problem is making precision shots, ie. no-shoot or hostage situation. That takes some guesswork and requires a lot more practice. It boils down to mastering your gun.
 
easyrider604 said:
I only had a Sig clone in the past and can't remember what the sight pic was.

From your CGN handle, seems you want to shoot fast. And the fastest, reasonably accurate sight picture is the "combat" picture.

The problem is making precision shots, ie. no-shoot or hostage situation. That takes some guesswork and requires a lot more practice. It boils down to mastering your gun.
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HAHA that goes back to my days of the Buell lightening's top speed. Trying to keep up to the gixers and r1's. never thought about it they way your stating, but perception is reality isn't it. Getting accurate with the 3 shots at different targets so they are all in center mass is what I have been practicing though. Got it down pretty good with other pistols, have not even thought about shooting the sig fast yet, get accurate first.
 
Get an experienced shooter to shoot it. IME, it’s been a shooter issue when things are out that far. The sights might be a tiny bit off, but it’s probably you. :)
 
I have a SIG228 clone, it shoots low and to the right, my buddy is an expert pistol shooter (ex CF) and does not have my issue. He mentioned it was my grip.... :(
 
Guess I am headed to the range tonight, damn. not totally new to the game, fairly new I guess compared to some on here, the other 2 pistols (p250; m&p9) I took yesterday I had good results with getting around a 5" group at 7 meters. going after that jagged hole I see some of you post. i am still trying to stop all my shots going to the left and I know that's me, but elevation I am always on with my other pistols. maybe a few strays now and then. lol. Our range does not get very much activity so finding an experienced sig shooter may be difficult.
 
Several things will affect your shooting from one gun to another, but as mentioned in another post - grip matters. Sometimes it'll be using too light pressure on your strong hand, then a long reach for a trigger with short fingers or a heavy trigger pull, may make you tighten the lower three fingers on your strong hand as you pull the trigger. This "milking" effect will pull the muzzle down.

Give you another gun with different grip geometry and/or a lighter trigger pull, and you may shoot it better. I've seen this happen with shooters.

I've done it to some extent too. I recently put a magwell on my gun, but the grip panels are thin. What happened then was my hands were cupped a bit so the middle of my palm was floating away from the grip panels due to my hand width being squished. This caused me accuracy issues. Put on wider grip panels, and I can shoot it very well again.

Bring dummy rounds with you and randomly put them in a mag that has live ammo in it. When you focus on the front sight post during the shot, (not the target), and pull the trigger on a dummy, you shouldn't see the front sight post dip. The gun should be rock solid. My guess is you will see the FSP dip on a dummy.
 
Ammo? what's the gr of the bullet?, BTW IIRC "shooting low" is an anticipating recoil? hope that helps?
 
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jimbo14 said:
Several things will affect your shooting from one gun to another, but as mentioned in another post - grip matters. Sometimes it'll be using too light pressure on your strong hand, then a long reach for a trigger with short fingers or a heavy trigger pull, may make you tighten the lower three fingers on your strong hand as you pull the trigger. This "milking" effect will pull the muzzle down.

Give you another gun with different grip geometry and/or a lighter trigger pull, and you may shoot it better. I've seen this happen with shooters.

I've done it to some extent too. I recently put a magwell on my gun, but the grip panels are thin. What happened then was my hands were cupped a bit so the middle of my palm was floating away from the grip panels due to my hand width being squished. This caused me accuracy issues. Put on wider grip panels, and I can shoot it very well again.

Bring dummy rounds with you and randomly put them in a mag that has live ammo in it. When you focus on the front sight post during the shot, (not the target), and pull the trigger on a dummy, you shouldn't see the front sight post dip. The gun should be rock solid. My guess is you will see the FSP dip on a dummy.
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Nice info, Will do. thank you.
 
Gofast240 said:
Sig p226 shoots low 12” @ 30’
Hi all, just got my first sig, p226 select, in my hands 1 week from purchase date, Thank you Tenda. Range report last night found it shoots low by approx 12” at 30’. Had to have bottom on front sight flush with top of rear sight to hit center of target. I usually use a 6 o clock hold, Read a few threads on on sig sights and was not using the combat center hold so that would make me shoot low. Will go to range and try that but I don’t think it will raise me up 12”. Will also bench shoot it to get a more accurate drop number. Just using bulk ammo. What does the sig community say to my observation. What a beautiful fire arm, going to be hard going back to shooting the cz 75 and m&p.

Cheers
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Look at the front and rear sight and see if it's #6 front and a #8 rear. If it is, the front sight would need a #8.

My 226 was a 6 and 8 and shot 14" low at 7yds. I now have a #9 front and an 8 rear.

FWIW Sig didn't have the #9 I got that in the US.
 
I'm not saying this is what it is, but when I was a range officer 99.99% of the time when someone complained about their gun it was them not operating it correctly or not using the correct technique.
 
RePete said:
Look at the front and rear sight and see if it's #6 front and a #8 rear. If it is, the front sight would need a #8.

My 226 was a 6 and 8 and shot 14" low at 7yds. I now have a #9 front and an 8 rear.

FWIW Sig didn't have the #9 I got that in the US.
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If you still have your original sight, I’d love it if you’d measure it. That seems way off compared to this article, that says the height difference between a #6 & #9 is 0.015”. A 14” correction over 7 yds would need about 1/4” in FSP height change (just ballpark math).

https://www.realgunreviews.com/sig-sauer-sight-heights-sight-numbers/
 
If you are shooting 115gr ammo, try some 124 or 147gr as they tend to stay in the barrel a little longer and the recoil that lifts your barrel can raise the point of impact a bit. Usually shooting slower ammo combined with a better hold can cure a low impact.
 
RePete said:
You might want to check your math, you're not even close.
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I checked an independent website and it says the same, assuming a 5” sight radius. You’d need about a 1/4” different FSP.

The article I linked to has info from Sig. Going from a #6 to #9 should move POI up 3” at 25 yards. Nowhere near 14” at 7 yds, if the FSP heights on the site are correct and who knows what you have....

Whatever.
 
SIG sights are set up as the platform was designed,a Combat pistol.
Push the dots.

A Bullseye sight picture will shoot low unless you change the sights on any SIG.

As mentioned,the sights are numbered-When the numbers go UP...POI rises.
Meaning
The higher the front sight number the lower the sight height.
The higher the rear sight number the higher the sight height.
Sight numbers range from a #6 thru a #10.
 
Never made it back to range Yet, but after listening to all of you say it’s just me I looked up some training to do before I head back out. I fall into the category of “It doesn’t happen with any other gun I have”. Thanks for all the feedback, really appreciate the knowledge on this site.

“My pistol shoots low”
13-Apr-09 – 16:12 by ToddG
I just spent 20 minutes visiting half a dozen different popular handgun forums. Every single one of them had threads started by someone claiming that his gun shoots low. How low? 6-12″ at 21 feet. 10″ at 25 feet. Three feet at 25yd.

The threads generally begin asking if the problem is the gun or the ammo.

The gun or the ammo!

Here’s a simple professional opinion: if your handgun is shooting three feet low at twenty-five yards, it’s you. I’m sure someone will be able to come up with an exception, but any major brand handgun with standard ammo will not be shooting that low.

The response from many shooters, especially less skilled shooters, is invariably, “it doesn’t happen with any other gun I have” or “I had some friends shoot it and it did the same thing.” Sorry, it’s still you. Just because you can shoot a single action target .22 well doesn’t mean that you can shoot a double action .40 S&W well. Just because the local Rangemaster says your gun sucks doesn’t mean he knows what he’s talking about no matter how many cool stories he has about learning to shoot sixty years go.

So what to do?

First, try shooting the pistol from a support position, like a sandbag rest. This will reduce the effect of anticipating recoil. If that doesn’t magically fix things, though, you need to work on your fundamentals. This is the approach I recommend:

Wall Drill. Practice this until you can press the trigger every time without the front sight moving out of alignment.
Ball & Dummy Drill. Practice this until you no longer flinch at the end of the trigger press.
3×5 Card Drill. Take your time and get your hits.
You’ll soon be amazed when that same gun & ammo that used to shoot a foot low at 21′ now suddenly hits a little notecard at twice that distance.

Sure, it’s possible that a factory gun with certain ammo will shoot a few inches low at 25yd. Heck, you might even notice a difference of an inch at 21 feet. But if it’s low enough that it bothers you, odds are it’s the guy behind the gun.

Train hard & stay safe! ToddG
 
Well, after a couple more range visits, all of you that said “shooter” were absolutely correct, THANK YOU. It forced me to change a couple things and work on technique. Now have 500 thru the new sig and it shoots great at all distances, well I guess I’m shooting great pistol always did. Really worked on my grip and stopped pulling to the left. Imho biggest thing with elevation was sight picture on the sig is so much different than my cz’s.

Cheers
 
Gofast240 said:
Well, after a couple more range visits, all of you that said “shooter” were absolutely correct, THANK YOU. It forced me to change a couple things and work on technique. Now have 500 thru the new sig and it shoots great at all distances, well I guess I’m shooting great pistol always did. Really worked on my grip and stopped pulling to the left. Imho biggest thing with elevation was sight picture on the sig is so much different than my cz’s.

Cheers
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Great to hear!

It's a good reminder for all of us that if you are shooting poorly, you should pause, and focus on the fundamentals. Start by examining your grip, trigger finger isolation, and sight picture. Seek help if you aren't getting anywhere on your own.

I recently modded one of my Shadows to put a red dot on it, and seeing that little dot move can reveal so much that was hidden by my poor vision with iron sights. When I shoot weak hand only, I can see the little dot slide to the right just before the trigger breaks. It's a red spotlight on my poor fundamentals. lol! The issue was visible before I used a red dot, but the little dot sure makes my flaws stand out. hahahaha!
 
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