Glock 17/22 Grip Problem

[timothydgordon]

I took my soon to be father in law down to the range with me today to shoot my G22. His hands are slightly smaller than mine as I have longer fingers. After about 50 or so rounds he experiencing a small imprint on the top of his left hand which is his dominant hand on the Glock. The imprint was red and sore, it was left of where his thumb meets the palm of his hand. This was caused by the deep grip at the back of the Glock where the plastic protrudes to support the rearmost part of the slide.

Would moving to the slightly smaller G19 or G23 help?

Also, he really liked the Beretta 92FS but you can't seem to get them anywhere anymore and I want to know if we could get a smaller grip for it as it seems to be just slightly too thick.

Tim.

 

[TDC]

What you seem to be describing is a mild case of "slide bite". Move the hand down slightly, this should eliminate the problem. As for Beretta's. I believe there are a couple for sale in the EE right now. If not, they can be had qith ease by looking around with some of the sponsoring dealers. The grips on the Beretta are quite large, the stock plastic ones are about as slim as you can get.

TDC

 

[IM_Lugger]

There shouldn't be a problem finding a Beretta if you look around...stores can order one if they don't have one in stock...Vertec, Elite 1 models have smaller grip, and you can order a smaller grip for 90two (they're interchangeable)

About the Glock I doubt it would make a difference with a G19/23... you can get a Houge grip sleeve to cover the grip checkering/texture...This is why I'm not a fan of Glocks’ grip angle; too much recoil gets absorbed by the webbing of the hand("where his thumb meets the palm") I find with other guns recoil is distributed more equally on the entire palm.

 

[timothydgordon]

What you seem to be describing is a mild case of "slide bite".

TDC

I watched him very closely and it wasn't the slide. It's literally the bone at the base of the joint of the thumb meeting with the large ridge of the frame that supports the rear of the slide. With the slide removed the pressure remains on his hand as it's the frame.

 

[TDC]

Which joint are you talking about? is he using a crossed thumbs technique, as in one thumb crossing over the back of the pistol on top of the other hand?? If this is the case, his grip is 100% wrong. If this is not the case, then I'm not sure I understand the issue and would need some pics or to see the issue first hand.

IM Luger,
The grip angle on Glocks is the same as 1911's. The only difference being the contour at the heel of the grip. Recoil?? huh? There's recoil when you fire? There is very little recoil and what recoil there is is nicely distributed to your arm with the advent of little muzzle flip due to a very low bore axis. The checkering is no where near aggressive like a steel framed pistol running 20LPI or 30LPI checkering.

TDC

 

[timothydgordon]

I appreciate you trying to dissect this, I'm definetly going to take some pics as he was not using a crossed thumb technique. It's almost like his hand was too big and his fingers not long enough so the frame was really digging into his hand at one specific point leaving an indent and bright red mark at the indent. I'll get some pics very soon.

Which joint are you talking about? is he using a crossed thumbs technique, as in one thumb crossing over the back of the pistol on top of the other hand?? If this is the case, his grip is 100% wrong. If this is not the case, then I'm not sure I understand the issue and would need some pics or to see the issue first hand.

IM Luger,
The grip angle on Glocks is the same as 1911's. The only difference being the contour at the heel of the grip. Recoil?? huh? There's recoil when you fire? There is very little recoil and what recoil there is is nicely distributed to your arm with the advent of little muzzle flip due to a very low bore axis. The checkering is no where near aggressive like a steel framed pistol running 20LPI or 30LPI checkering.

TDC

 

[IM_Lugger]

There is very little recoil and what recoil there is is nicely distributed to your arm with the advent of little muzzle flip due to a very low bore axis

.40S&W is a snappie caliber esp in a Glock...Low bore axis reduces muzzle jump BUT it makes the gun recoil straight back which can actually make the recoil feel worse; I had a Steyr 9mm (has a super low bore axis) and found the straight push recoil uncomfortable after shooting for a while... for me Glock is even worse because of the checkeing on the back of the grip. (1911 has a smoth grips safetuy and feels nothing like the Glock, not to mention the straight grip profile.

 

[TDC]

Good point luger. The smooth grip safety can be a huge factor for some shooters comfort. The 40 cal Glocks really don't recoil anymore than the 9mm's IMO. You can certainly feel and hear the difference, I wouldn't say its a handicap.

TDC