Weird Day At The Range

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Had a chance to demo a wide variety of pistols. In the group we shot all new condition pistols except mine. All of them were for sale, did lots of dry firing and we each shot two 10 round mags on each gun except the SIG; If we were serious about buying we were allowed to do another 10 round mag on the firearm.

My G22 (wasn't for sale!!)
Beretta 92FS, last of the bunch $819
S&W M&P 9mm, last years model $699
Springfield XD 9mm tactical, last years model $699
G17, last years model $799
SIG P220? $1,399.

When we went to the range yesterday all the target movers were torn down and in a large garbage bin outside, on the desk we found a booklet for a "target mover in a box" I really hope our range doesn't plan on using this new at home, DIY, amateur looking mover. So we didn't get to shoot paper, instead carboard stapled to two-by-fours (from 7 to 10 meters distance) or metal stand up targets very far down range (25 meters)

First things first, the G17 felt different from my G22, the G17 was more balanced and lighter. The G17 felt like the weight was distributed evenly but with my G22 the weight was more business end heavy. Oddly enough my G22 felt better in the hand as agree'd by everyone in attendance. They were both 3rd generation Glocks. Only difference I can think of is my G22 had a lasermax recoil spring and guide rod installed. Also I have trijicon night sights on my G22 but that shouldn't have affected perceived weight balance?

The G17 stock sights SUCKED. The S&W M&P had the best stock sights but felt too light in the hand, the trigger was not uncomfortable at all.

No one liked the aesthetic of the M&P, fired it several times then went back to shoot the Glock again. The G17 was preferred over the M&P simply because of it's history, no one had any actual complaint the M&P which I found weird.

Everyone liked the Springfield XD but no one shot it more than once and really paid much attention to it at all after it was fired, needless to say no one bought it. I loved the round in the chamber indicator and thought it was very smart.

The Beretta also sold right away; I only got to dry fire it because it was sold right away and was the last left. The Glock 17 sold aswell but after we all had a chance to shoot it.

There was a SIG there but we weren't allowed to shoot it unless we were for sure going to buy it. (i.e. buy it now, we'll let you shoot it then on Monday do your paperwork to make it yours and eventually you can come pick-it-up). We weren't even really allowed to dry fire it, it was tres expensive at $1,399. It was the most expensive there.
 
All of those pistols were overpriced. You can buy brand new never fired guns for less (about $300 less in P220's case).
 
You can find M&P's in 9 and 40 for $649 without looking too hard, cheaper if you give up the extra mag (don't, you'll regret it). The huge advantage the M&P has over the Glock is fit, you can make it fit your hand. This makes it easier to shoot well with less effort.
 
Had a chance to demo a wide variety of pistols. In the group we shot all new condition pistols except mine. All of them were for sale, did lots of dry firing and we each shot two 10 round mags on each gun except the SIG; If we were serious about buying we were allowed to do another 10 round mag on the firearm.

My G22 (wasn't for sale!!)
Beretta 92FS, last of the bunch $819
S&W M&P 9mm, last years model $699
Springfield XD 9mm tactical, last years model $699
G17, last years model $799
SIG P220? $1,399.

When we went to the range yesterday all the target movers were torn down and in a large garbage bin outside, on the desk we found a booklet for a "target mover in a box" I really hope our range doesn't plan on using this new at home, DIY, amateur looking mover. So we didn't get to shoot paper, instead carboard stapled to two-by-fours (from 7 to 10 meters distance) or metal stand up targets very far down range (25 meters)

First things first, the G17 felt different from my G22, the G17 was more balanced and lighter. The G17 felt like the weight was distributed evenly but with my G22 the weight was more business end heavy. Oddly enough my G22 felt better in the hand as agree'd by everyone in attendance. They were both 3rd generation Glocks. Only difference I can think of is my G22 had a lasermax recoil spring and guide rod installed. Also I have trijicon night sights on my G22 but that shouldn't have affected perceived weight balance?

The G17 stock sights SUCKED. The S&W M&P had the best stock sights but felt too light in the hand, the trigger was not uncomfortable at all.

No one liked the aesthetic of the M&P, fired it several times then went back to shoot the Glock again. The G17 was preferred over the M&P simply because of it's history, no one had any actual complaint the M&P which I found weird.

Everyone liked the Springfield XD but no one shot it more than once and really paid much attention to it at all after it was fired, needless to say no one bought it. I loved the round in the chamber indicator and thought it was very smart.

The Beretta also sold right away; I only got to dry fire it because it was sold right away and was the last left. The Glock 17 sold aswell but after we all had a chance to shoot it.

There was a SIG there but we weren't allowed to shoot it unless we were for sure going to buy it. (i.e. buy it now, we'll let you shoot it then on Monday do your paperwork to make it yours and eventually you can come pick-it-up). We weren't even really allowed to dry fire it, it was tres expensive at $1,399. It was the most expensive there.

Is the range you're talking about actually called "The Range"? Where is it? Those prices are outrageously high. It's nice when people put the city they are from under their signature so we can have an idea what part of the country they are from.
Mike
 
Sorry, it was Brantford, Ontario. Brant Revolver and Rifle Club.

I felt they were all priced "okay" obviously the person wanted to get paid for their time and I mean, the XD did get shot and not bought at all. I thought the M&P was highly looked-over because of Glock's prestige. Really, it was a more form fitting firearm, I agree. Also, we pitched in a very minimal fee for ammunition so, it was a lot of fun any way around for a new pistol shooter like myself!
 
yeah when you think about it it isnt a big deal.
consider it the price of being able to compare these models all right there, in person, with live firing.

most of the time, if someone wants to do such a thing, they have to find owners of all these guns and find out when and if they'll let them try them out,
 
Sorry, it was Brantford, Ontario. Brant Revolver and Rifle Club.

I felt they were all priced "okay" obviously the person wanted to get paid for their time and I mean, the XD did get shot and not bought at all. I thought the M&P was highly looked-over because of Glock's prestige. Really, it was a more form fitting firearm, I agree. Also, we pitched in a very minimal fee for ammunition so, it was a lot of fun any way around for a new pistol shooter like myself!

It's good that you got to try some different guns, that's worth something for sure. I started with a Kimber 1911 in .45 and had to get a nice revolver to keep her company so that was the 686. Then of course to complete the "Holy Trinity" I added a Sig 226 in 9mm. Did I always want a Python? Oh yes there's one here now too. A nice old Ruger? Found a nice 1960 SBH and so on and so on....it's like some people and drinking - one's too many and a thousand's not enough...
Mike
 
It's good that you got to try some different guns, that's worth something for sure. I started with a Kimber 1911 in .45 and had to get a nice revolver to keep her company so that was the 686. Then of course to complete the "Holy Trinity" I added a Sig 226 in 9mm. Did I always want a Python? Oh yes there's one here now too. A nice old Ruger? Found a nice 1960 SBH and so on and so on....it's like some people and drinking - one's too many and a thousand's not enough...
Mike

I didn't think I would be in the same boat as you but I am. Originally got my G22 for practice as it will be my service pistol. Now, enjoying the sport of shooting beyong the utilitarian use of my pistol I can't wait to get a G19, I actually even want one of the long 9mm from Glock too, a Beretta or Tarus (92) of my own, I would love a Ruger too! I mean, yikes.. I've got the fever!
 
I didn't think I would be in the same boat as you but I am. Originally got my G22 for practice as it will be my service pistol. Now, enjoying the sport of shooting beyong the utilitarian use of my pistol I can't wait to get a G19, I actually even want one of the long 9mm from Glock too, a Beretta or Tarus (92) of my own, I would love a Ruger too! I mean, yikes.. I've got the fever!

I don't have a Glock yet but I wouldn't mind a G34 or maybe a G17L. They show up here on EE once in a while.
 
Sorry, it was Brantford, Ontario. Brant Revolver and Rifle Club.

I felt they were all priced "okay" obviously the person wanted to get paid for their time and I mean, the XD did get shot and not bought at all. I thought the M&P was highly looked-over because of Glock's prestige. Really, it was a more form fitting firearm, I agree. Also, we pitched in a very minimal fee for ammunition so, it was a lot of fun any way around for a new pistol shooter like myself!

well, no, at that price it's no bargin.....and glock prestige?! first time I've ever heard cheap and nasty called prestigeous:D. (ducking swarms of angry glock fans) it's a tool and not a handsome one at that, if you want pretty or prestigeous, by a kimber or a sig.
 
well, no, at that price it's no bargin.....and glock prestige?! first time I've ever heard cheap and nasty called prestigeous:D. (ducking swarms of angry glock fans) it's a tool and not a handsome one at that, if you want pretty or prestigeous, by a kimber or a sig.

I've got a Kimber & a Sig but will defend anyone's right to own a Glock no matter how ugly they are:) Just kidding - like I said I might get a 17L or 34 someday...
 
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