At what distance does .22 LR become non dangerous

When we were in our 20s ,we got the bright idea of going to Detroit, one sat evening. We went there and played some pool had a beer and some dinner. We stopped to fill up on gas on way back. We got out of the car and bought some snack food. Upon getting back into the car my cousin was rubbing his shoulder ,and found that his was bleeding. We were only five k from border and headed home. Later we found he had been hit by a .22 that went through the jacket, shirt and stopped just under the skin. At the hospital they took the bullet out very easily. They then call the police and we answered questions for a hour before they finally cut us loose. Never heard the shot. Dont know were it came from ,likely a roof top somewhere. Just glad it was a ,22 rimfire.
 
Later we found he had been hit by a .22 that went through the jacket, shirt and stopped just under the skin.
With that much penetration it seems very lucky that whoever took the (probably suppressed) shot aimed a little bit low (probably a couple of blocks away and didn't account for bullet drop of half a foot or so). A head shot would likely have penetrated the skull. Bloody hell. That's a hell of a thing.
 
With that much penetration it seems very lucky that whoever took the (probably suppressed) shot aimed a little bit low (probably a couple of blocks away and didn't account for bullet drop of half a foot or so). A head shot would likely have penetrated the skull. Bloody hell. That's a hell of a thing.

Probably just a stray bullet and they were never intending of hitting him... there have been stories over the years (mostly out of the USA) where someone is randomly hit with a bullet, never heard the shot, probably came from surprisingly far away, probably someone shooting high and/or up into the air. Luckily it usually doesn't seem to equal death as the bullet isn't traveling very fast at that point.

I think there are a few stories like that from Canada too... someone is out hiking, feels a sting on their leg, it's a bullet from a mile away that doesn't have the penetrating power to go more than 1/2" into the skin. It's rare but in a country full of guns, with 340 million ppl, over the course of decades, it happens.
 
Probably just a stray bullet and they were never intending of hitting him... there have been stories over the years (mostly out of the USA) where someone is randomly hit with a bullet, never heard the shot, probably came from surprisingly far away, probably someone shooting high and/or up into the air. Luckily it usually doesn't seem to equal death as the bullet isn't traveling very fast at that point.

I think there are a few stories like that from Canada too... someone is out hiking, feels a sting on their leg, it's a bullet from a mile away that doesn't have the penetrating power to go more than 1/2" into the skin. It's rare but in a country full of guns, with 340 million ppl, over the course of decades, it happens.

I would think wedding season in the Middle East must be particularly bad for random projectiles raining down......

[youtube]IJEO3rmefmI[/youtube]
 
Neither will "cut straight through" a person. The decidedly unaerodynamic penny would make its way down at about 25 mph (under 40 fps), while a more aerodynamic bullet would reach about 200 mph (or about 300 fps) when dropped. The maximum velocity it achieves is the product of the air drag and the pull of gravity. It's very close to the terminal velocity of a peregrine falcon in a dive. A 40 grain bullet dropped from the CN Tower would have nearly 8.5 foot pounds of energy, probably enough to at least fracture the skull, perhaps penetrate it. If a person fell from a great height, he would reach a terminal velocity of about 150 mph (220 fps). For more details on falling bullets in the sky, see h t t p
s://web.archive.org/web/20080331192517/http://www.loadammo.com/Topics/March01.htm

Regarding the energy of a standard velocity .22LR bullet at 1500 yards, the following table shows that it will have a velocity of 263 fps with 6 foot pounds of energy. For comparison, a non-PAL air rifle firing a typical 8.4 grain pellet at 495 fps will produce 4.57 foot pounds of energy. There is sufficient energy in both to require great care and respect for safety.

How does a bullet speed up from 1600 to 1700 And maintain 6foot pounds for so long?
 
How does a bullet speed up from 1600 to 1700 And maintain 6foot pounds for so long?

My guess would be that somewhere around 1600 is the transition from a more horizontal, powder-driven velocity, to a more vertical, gravity-driven velocity. Drag might have overcome the horizontal travel sufficiently as to turn it into primarily a falling bullet, whereupon it accelerates slightly. After all, it's fallen 21,341 inches at that point! That's almost 600 yards, as in ye olde 6 football fields. That's a lot of falling. A standard .22lr bullet is a fairly aerodynamically efficient thing. It might speed up a little on falling.
 
How does a bullet speed up from 1600 to 1700 And maintain 6foot pounds for so long?

I hadn't noticed the error. Since it's impossible for a projectile to gain velocity, it would appear that the ballistics calculator has a glitch for this particular ammo. For comparison, when Tenex is used it slows down during its entire flight as it should. So, too, does Center X.

 
I would think wedding season in the Middle East must be particularly bad for random projectiles raining down......

[youtube]IJEO3rmefmI[/youtube]

For sure... I've seen that video a few times and I can't help but wonder how many ppl get injured during wedding season there. I guess they are all deaf as well.
 
Is this all moot in most scenarios though? For example, if you're aiming at a target 50 yards away at roughly the same elevation. If I understand the data here, a bullet fired from the standing position on level ground will hit the dirt within a couple hundred yards, no?
 
Last edited:
Is this all moot in most scenarios though? For example, if you're aiming at a target 50 yards away at roughly the same elevation. If I understand the data here, a bullet fired from the standing position on level ground will hit the dirt within a couple hundred yards, no?

The ballistic charts posted above have a zero at 100 yards. They are for standard velocity .22LR ammo. They show that by the time a bullet gets to 300 yards it will have dropped some 123" (ten feet). A six-foot-tall shooter on level ground with a .22LR sighted at 100 yards would find that his bullets would not exceed 300 yards before hitting the ground provided he did not "shoot high". Despite that, on the grounds of safety and public perception it is always advisable to always aim and shoot in a safe direction.

High velocity .22LR ammo has different ballistic characteristics. They will have less drop than the slower standard velocity .22LR ammo. Below are charts that show the drop for CCI Mini-Mags (40 grains) and for CCI Stingers (32 grains) with average MV's of 1235 and 1640 fps, respectively.

 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom