Reloading Problem.

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Howdy.. I have this wierd thing happening to my nice dent free brass when I de-cap and resize the case. I am reloading 7x57mauser and using RCBS dies. So what is happening when I ram the case up into the die, to punch out the primer and resize all is good until I pull the case back out. A sharp dent is pressed into the side of my case just under the shoulder. Now I get a crappy looking case with a fricking dent in it.. WHY.. I took the die apart cleaned it, looked for any crap in it, nothing.

One think I noticed is that it seems to occur more frequently when I lube the case up. It's almost as if the lube is building up inside the die and causes a pressure point in there and punches a dent into the brass.

The funny thing is some casings make it dent free.... what the hell is going on.:cool:
 
Many sizing dies have a small bleed off hole through the side to help clear excess lube. If the hole gets plugged with dried lube it can cause a lube build up inside the die. Check and clear the hole if needed. Also as mentioned use just enough lube to do the job.
 
Wow it is a good thing looks are over rated, when I first started reloading I slathered that lube on like I was using a trowel took me a few rounds and a little reading to figure out where I was going south.
Ken.
 
Got it guys.. Thanks. I will clear out the vent hole, (that did'nt sound right) and not use so much lube, also keep it clear of the shoulder. And I will blast those dents out with a trigger pull.

One more thing can you pop out a live primer to reuse or will I have to forget that idea. I also crushed some loaded casings when I forgot to lube the bullet during seating, now I would like to salvage the bullet, powder and primer....

Sorry, first time,
 
Lube the bullet? Are you shooting cast lead bullets or jacketed? No need to lube jacketed bullets. If you are shooting lead the case mouth shoud be chamfered and belled. It almost sounds like you are not chamfering the case mouth and causing a collapse when seating the bullet. Does that make any sense to you?
 
stocker said:
Lube the bullet? Are you shooting cast lead bullets or jacketed? No need to lube jacketed bullets. If you are shooting lead the case mouth shoud be chamfered and belled. It almost sounds like you are not chamfering the case mouth and causing a collapse when seating the bullet. Does that make any sense to you?
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I 'believe' its lube on the brass case for resizing thats the point of contention, not the lube of a cast bullet.;)
 
Back to your question; the only part of handloading that carries much risk is handling primers. Once a primer is properly seated, the slight crush sensitizes the compound. In more than 30 years of loading, I have had only one live primer "pop" when I run the primed case back up into the sizing die. That was one time too many! For the few cents that each primer costs, it just isn't worth it to screw around.
 
Ok, good point. They are gone. You are right stocker, I did not resize these particular casings, funny I did not even notice the collapse until I had a box of 20 done... WTF over. Chalk it up to lessons learned.

Thanks All.
 
K98Action: Your use of different terms leaves me confused to what you are actually doing. If you didn't resize the cases the bullets would basically drop into the case unless supported by powder charge under them. Is this what occured and did you then run them into the seater die causing the case damage?
 
Whoops,, sorry stocker, it was late and I must have been crossed eyed.. meant to say correct I did not case trim and chamfer.. Also when I said lube the bullet earlier, I meant that I put a bit of lube on the inside of the casing neck, then the bullets went in without collapse. To me that seems the same as lubing the actual bullet?

anyhow, now I just have to figure out how to pull bullets. Do I need a bullet puller device?
 
If you want to salvage the bullets you will need a puller tool of one type or another. I prefer a collett type puller to an inertia (hammer) puller.
In many seating dies there is a small shoulder intended to lightly crimp the case mouth on thebullet. If you have too much crimp pressure you can wrinkle/buckle brass. If this is possibly happening the solution is to unscrew the die a bit and re-adjust your seater stem to maintain proper seating depth. For most rifles the crimp shoulder only needs to kiss the case mouth as an aid to smooth feeding in the rifle. Tubular magazine rifles (lever guns) may require a firmer crimp.
 
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