Winchester 94 question
- Thread starter Snuffy
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If you're stuck on the Win 94 just about any "Pre 64" Winnie is Nice shape would fit the bill and certainly can be found in Great shape well within your price range.
I'm partial to the Earlier "Rifle" Models rather then the Standard Carbines
Cartridge choice is simple really........the 30-30(30wcf) and the 94 were made for each other!
I'm partial to the Earlier "Rifle" Models rather then the Standard Carbines
Cartridge choice is simple really........the 30-30(30wcf) and the 94 were made for each other!
- Location
- Burke Mountain & Pavilion Lake, B.C.
I have several and my favorite is a 32-40 with an oct. barrel.
KTK
KTK
Long barrel & Carbine prices pretty much depend on amount of blueing left on the receiver & bore. $500 should get you a pretty nice one with no or very little blueing on reciever, pretty much all the blueing on the barrel & a good bore. If by chance you did run across one with say 50% receiver blueing you would probably be up in the $700 range. Caliber is also a premium, add $100 for 25-35 & $50 for 38-55 with the 32-40 in between in both rarity & price. Then there's "special features" which all add value, such as higher grade wood, 1/2 mags, deluxe models, T/D's, etc all add value + hex barrels even though they were not really a special feature
BUT beware, I was just at Switzers auction & all the early 94s were reblue's
including the .30wcf Saddle Ring & the 25-35 rifle fortunately the prices did reflect the fact most new it! So watch for reblue's, there becoming quite common!
- Location
- Winnipeg,Man.
i have 10 Winnies in 30-30, 32 special and 38-55 calibers. 4 long barrel rifles and 6 carbines. They range fron 4 - pre 1910 rifles. to '49 to 71 carbines. Once you have 1 gun, many more will follow. There are quite a few that pass thru this forum and I have gotten some very nice ones for average $450-$500. I shoot them all and none are wall hangers. The guns made before 1964 are getting more collectable. while if they are made after the manufacturing changes in '64....many are considered "shooters" and if you want one of these , buy and enjoy...Some of them have been "hunted" and the blueing worn away but funcionally they are great.
Virtually everyone has a horror story about 1 or more firearms that they have owned. Here's my lever horror story on post '64 Winchesters;
In '94 I was looking for a lever in .357 because I was doing alot of .357 shooting out of my M66 and wanted a cheap and easy round that I could reload in abundance. After looking around for about 6-8 months I couldn't find one, I even phoned Winchester! The nice lady said that they didn't have enough calls to start manufacturing them again. Remember this was before Cowboy Action got bigger.
I finally gave up on .357 and found a Winchester Wrangler in .44 Magnum. Shades of John Wayne that large loop lever was kewl! Little did I realize that with 2 years, I'd start shooting Cowboy Action. I did lots of testing and came up 7.2 grains of Unique pushing a 240 grain LSWC bullet as an accurate target load (not really a stiff load).
Within the first 20 rds down range, the pot metal feed ramp broke. Off for warranty work! Eight months later I get the rifle back. After every 50 rds the rear sight elevator would fall off. So we have to install a Williams rear sight! Shooting again after every 50 rds the screws in the receiver would work loose. Locktite!! After 1,500 rds the tubular magazine spring gave up the ghost! Wolfe Gunsprings to the rescue. After this the Lever Link broke, 3 months and 5 nasty letters later, Winchester told me they would sell me the part but without warranty! They wanted me to send the gun to the warranty centre again!
That was the last straw, I found a sucker to buy the Winchester and bought a Marlin M1894S, after 8,000 rds through it, it broke a firing pin. I love the quality Marlin builds in. I have had Winchester Lever actions built in 1906 and 1913 that have actions as smooth as butter, those rifles were remarkable. I currently have a 1906 mfg Winchester 92 in .44 Magnum that I used as a backup rifle to my Marlin, great little gun. Don't waste your money on crap! ie: Post 64 Winchester M94's.
P.S. My Wrangler was one of 4 Wranglers in town with the same problems.
In '94 I was looking for a lever in .357 because I was doing alot of .357 shooting out of my M66 and wanted a cheap and easy round that I could reload in abundance. After looking around for about 6-8 months I couldn't find one, I even phoned Winchester! The nice lady said that they didn't have enough calls to start manufacturing them again. Remember this was before Cowboy Action got bigger.
I finally gave up on .357 and found a Winchester Wrangler in .44 Magnum. Shades of John Wayne that large loop lever was kewl! Little did I realize that with 2 years, I'd start shooting Cowboy Action. I did lots of testing and came up 7.2 grains of Unique pushing a 240 grain LSWC bullet as an accurate target load (not really a stiff load).
Within the first 20 rds down range, the pot metal feed ramp broke. Off for warranty work! Eight months later I get the rifle back. After every 50 rds the rear sight elevator would fall off. So we have to install a Williams rear sight! Shooting again after every 50 rds the screws in the receiver would work loose. Locktite!! After 1,500 rds the tubular magazine spring gave up the ghost! Wolfe Gunsprings to the rescue. After this the Lever Link broke, 3 months and 5 nasty letters later, Winchester told me they would sell me the part but without warranty! They wanted me to send the gun to the warranty centre again!
That was the last straw, I found a sucker to buy the Winchester and bought a Marlin M1894S, after 8,000 rds through it, it broke a firing pin. I love the quality Marlin builds in. I have had Winchester Lever actions built in 1906 and 1913 that have actions as smooth as butter, those rifles were remarkable. I currently have a 1906 mfg Winchester 92 in .44 Magnum that I used as a backup rifle to my Marlin, great little gun. Don't waste your money on crap! ie: Post 64 Winchester M94's.
P.S. My Wrangler was one of 4 Wranglers in town with the same problems.
I went through this same purchase recently, but more to find an open sighted 94for hunting. I recently found a great 94 rifle here on CGN.
I would recommend doing some research on the 94 to identify when the major changes to the M94 occured and what features you may be interested in. For example, pre 64 are top eject and better steel, with the most collectible being made prior to 1900. After 64, cheaper components, but function did not seem to be affected. In 1982 (?), 94's went angle eject (AE), which is better for mounting a scope (top eject can kick the expended shell off the scope and back into the action). Then sometime after that they introduced the cross bolt safety, which many dislike, and after that they went to a tang safety (in 2003 I think), which works well but limits options on mounting a rear tang sight.
From what I understand, pre 64 make better collectibles, and AE models may be more desireable for hunting if you want to mount a scope. my .02 cents
I would recommend doing some research on the 94 to identify when the major changes to the M94 occured and what features you may be interested in. For example, pre 64 are top eject and better steel, with the most collectible being made prior to 1900. After 64, cheaper components, but function did not seem to be affected. In 1982 (?), 94's went angle eject (AE), which is better for mounting a scope (top eject can kick the expended shell off the scope and back into the action). Then sometime after that they introduced the cross bolt safety, which many dislike, and after that they went to a tang safety (in 2003 I think), which works well but limits options on mounting a rear tang sight.
From what I understand, pre 64 make better collectibles, and AE models may be more desireable for hunting if you want to mount a scope. my .02 cents
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
All due respect to Garand, I never had the degree of problems he had.
Using my 1980 made 44 Trapper Winchester, I did have some problems with a screw near the muzzle working loose. This due to the fact I was shooting 300 grain hard cast at maximum speed.
Other than that, I have had no problems with mine.
Cheers....
Using my 1980 made 44 Trapper Winchester, I did have some problems with a screw near the muzzle working loose. This due to the fact I was shooting 300 grain hard cast at maximum speed.
Other than that, I have had no problems with mine.
Cheers....
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
They made a model called the 'Deer hunter special' that I always liked.
It was full length, had a half mag, and a half octagon barrel. It may have had a curved finger lever, but I don't remember for sure. Much like the '64 in appearance.
Here's a pic of the '64 from Cabellas
in good shape, the '64 can be just a tad pricey, check out this link
http://www.kouryinvestments.com/winchester.htm
It was full length, had a half mag, and a half octagon barrel. It may have had a curved finger lever, but I don't remember for sure. Much like the '64 in appearance.
Here's a pic of the '64 from Cabellas
in good shape, the '64 can be just a tad pricey, check out this link
http://www.kouryinvestments.com/winchester.htm
Out of the BLUE, dont you now anything!
This thread got me doing some seaching on Winchester firearms. And I came across this one.
OK, I have a .33wcf T/D 86 in about 95% condition but oh poor me it's not a Deluxe
so lets have a look??
I agree with Garand. The Marlins have much more quality built in. I currently have a Winn. 94 (post 64) and a mid 70's Marlin 336. Both are 30/30. The Marlin is a much nicer gun in my opinion. To each his own.
Just thinking out loud
Wrench
Just thinking out loud
Wrench
Win. model 94
Where did you find a model 92 in .44 Magnum? Methinks not...
The older m. 94's are great rifles.....I have one made in 1942 issued to the Pacific Coast Militia Rangers and it is in excellent shape....to keep it that way I have put it away in my gun safe ...a bit of a shame as they are great shooters.....
Where did you find a model 92 in .44 Magnum? Methinks not...
The older m. 94's are great rifles.....I have one made in 1942 issued to the Pacific Coast Militia Rangers and it is in excellent shape....to keep it that way I have put it away in my gun safe ...a bit of a shame as they are great shooters.....
