7mm-08 or 6,5CM

[Buckmastr]

https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/7mm-08-remington/



It’s not hard to get over 2900 with a 140 in a 7-08.

 

[Gatehouse]

https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/7mm-08-remington/



It’s not hard to get over 2900 with a 140 in a 7-08.

They get good velocity from that 26" Wiseman barrel.

 

[todbartell]

and only two powders broke 2900

How many 7mm-08 rifles have a 26" barrel? TC Encore and the long gone Rem 700 Varmint come to mind. Probably getting outside the realm of a topic on elk rifles. Creedmoor will be faster in a longer barrel too. The gap doesn't widen

 

[Buckmastr]

Let’s use average velocities from different powders too. Because that’s apparently how you develop loads.

 

[todbartell]

Let’s use average velocities from different powders too. Because that’s apparently how you develop loads.

ok so let's compare RL17 in a 26" 6.5 Creedmoor to H4350 in a 16.5" Ruger Compact 7-08

you ever kill an elk? haha

 

[Buckmastr]

you ever kill an elk? haha

Thanks Tod.

Bigger bore, more case capacity, more speed.

 

[Gatehouse]

Looking at factory ammo- in this case I picked Federal Fusion as I see plenty of it in many different cartridges used at the range by hunters- we see with 140gr bullet


7-08
2850 FPS 2181 300YD

6.5 Creed
2725 FPS 2142 300YD

Still don't think any animal will be able to tell the difference, they are very close.

 

[300_savage]

7mm08 has an advantage of energy, velocity and frontal area, it may not be a huge advantage but it's there. If picking a cartridge for elk & it had to be a 7mm08 or 6.5 I'd take the advantages of the 7-08 , but I ain't never kilt an elk.

 

[iron cat]

Close your eyes and pick one! Really there is so little difference on an animal it is laughable.
Cat

 

[todbartell]

Thanks Tod.

Bigger bore, more case capacity, more speed.

@ the muzzle at least

 

[Buckmastr]

The 6.5 CM is a great target round. Never does it come up as an elk cartridge. And you don't need to kill an elk to know that much.

 

[remington jim]

6.5 CM or 7-08 Rem for ELK ? i would choose the 7-08 with a 140 TTSX bullet BUT better Yet is a 338 Fed with a 160 gr TTSX at 2940 fps ! jmo RJ

 

[todbartell]

 

[Buckmastr]

Let me scour youtube to see who's killed an elk with a 243. Then fabricate a quickload scenario and call it an elk cartridge.

 

[saskbooknut]

.338 Federal has more recoil that your average shooter can handle, leading to poor shooting.
For the hunter shooting 6.5 CM and 7 mm08 the crux is bullet placement, and the discipline to not shoot when circumstances are not right.

 

[remington jim]

.338 Federal has more recoil that your average shooter can handle, leading to poor shooting.
For the hunter shooting 6.5 CM and 7 mm08 the crux is bullet placement, and the discipline to not shoot when circumstances are not right.

I have them all - 6.5 CM 7-08Rem 308Win and with the 338 Fed I do not find the recoil much different then a 308 myself ! RJ

 

[Gatehouse]

The 6.5 CM is a great target round. Never does it come up as an elk cartridge. And you don't need to kill an elk to know that much.

What about the 7-08 as an elk cartridge?

 

[Astute Observer]

I was unaware that either the 7-08 or the 6.5CM could reliably take Elk. I assumed you'd need a 7mm Rem Mag or .300 Win Mag or something similar.

 

[pete dobinson]

The guy behind the trigger kills the elk. 6.5cm and 7-08 are both capable cartridges.

 

[chuck nelson]

The 7mm-08 suddenly becomes an elk cartridge when it’s compared against the Creedmoor. Kinda like mostly peaceful protests.