CZ 452 aperture sight vs. scope

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Hi new to the form and hunting. I have a CZ 452 LR.22, going to use for grouse this season. I would like to increase the accuracy of my shot and thinking of upgrading to either a aperture sight or a scope, I would like to keep my cost down. Anyone with more experience grouse hunting with .22 have thoughts?

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I haven't used an aperture sight for hunting but I'm sure it could be done. My .22 typically wears a 2-7x scope that stays between 2 and 3x. If I could dial it to 1x, I would. I'm thinking of upgrading to a 1-4x scope.
 
What sights are on your 452? You might be able to just purchase an 11mm dovetail rear aperture sight and achieve your goal at least expense (~100.00). Enjoy good eyesight while you can: lots of people are shoe horned into glass sights. When I was a kid we didn't have much money... couldn't afford good scopes. I got pretty good with the old irons on my 39 and still enjoy irons.

A nice set of hunting apertures should be less than a decent scope. A target set of apertures will easily exceed the cost of same scope. A desirable scope will have adjustable objective or fixed for shooting ~25-50y). If you want adjustable magnification: 2-7, otherwise a fixed (~4x) will be fine and cost least. I've recently saw Leupold adjustable magnification rimfire scopes online for ~330.00... the much cheaper Vortex Crossfire rimfire for ~200.00.
 
New Camper said:
What sights are on your 452? You might be able to just purchase an 11mm dovetail rear aperture sight and achieve your goal at least expense (~100.00). Enjoy good eyesight while you can: lots of people are shoe horned into glass sights. When I was a kid we didn't have much money... couldn't afford good scopes. I got pretty good with the old irons on my 39 and still enjoy irons.

A nice set of hunting apertures should be less than a decent scope. A target set of apertures will easily exceed the cost of same scope. A desirable scope will have adjustable objective or fixed for shooting ~25-50y). If you want adjustable magnification: 2-7, otherwise a fixed (~4x) will be fine and cost least. I've recently saw Leupold adjustable magnification rimfire scopes online for ~330.00... the much cheaper Vortex Crossfire rimfire for ~200.00.
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Should be able to find Nikon rimfire scopes for $200ish too, and they're supposed to be very good rimfire scopes for this sort of thing. If the OP's rifle is drilled and tapped he might be able to get a peep that'll just thread into the existing holes too?

I run Tech sights on my Marlin 795. I like 'em, but its mostly for shooting spinners at 25-50m not hunting, although if its what I had on hand I'd certainly use it. My hunting 22lr is a Savage Mk II with a 3-9x32 Rimfire scope, one of the ones that sell for $50-60 (maybe a bit more now, I bought mine for sub-$50 but it was on sale and a few years ago). The scope sucks (not great glass, eye box is too small, etc), but I can hit things farther out and more consistently with it. At 50yds I miss my spinner with the Marlin occasionally, but with the bolt gun its boringly consistent. I haven't really messed around with the spinner at longer ranges than that, although I'm hoping to do just that this coming weekend.
 
Decent Apeture sights will cost more than a scope these days. Most Apeture sights will keep up and surpass a scope at 50m in terms of consistency.


For your use, look for a decent fixed 4 or 6x scope in EE or a 3-9 variable... tons out there.
 
how good are your eyes? as i get older i find anything other than a scope challenging. i can deal with an aperture site from the bench but would find a moving grouse a challenge. depending on the site you chose you might need a taller/shorter front site adding to the cost. glass might be cheaper/better. only you will know.
 
Grouse are shot at close range.

If you zero a scope at, say, 10yards, the shot will hit a lot higher at 20 yards.

The peep sight sits lower and has less of a problem that way.

A big peep is hard to beat for speed, utility and accuracy.
 
Thank you everyone for your replies, I appreciate the feed back.
I'm almost 40 and my eyes are ok but not great. I have shot with a peep before and really liked it. I have found two different Aperture online but both come from US and with the exchange $150+ cad. Hoping to get on the EE and see what it will cost me for a used scope. I will then have to make the decision and pull the trigger haha
 
If you have a CZ452, most likely it has "11mm" dovetails - measure the width of the grooves on top of your receiver at their widest point. My CZ 452 Silhouette measures 11mm; my CZ 452 Scout does as well. European 11mm dovetails measure 11 mm (0.430") right there. North American makers use "3/8" dovetails and have a 45 degree angle, not a 60 degree angle like Europeans do. As a result, North American "3/8" dovetails (they measure width across the bottom of the cuts) will measure pretty close to 0.5" at their widest edge near the top. Over various years, CZ made both widths on various models, so worth your while to check what you have, before ordering anything. A scope needs rings - you need rings to match your dovetail and your scope body size, unless you are going to have rifle drilled and tapped, then can do most anything that you want.
 
IMO go with a scope for hunting. Much better clarity and quicker target acquisition. I have match grade aperture sights on my Anschutz .22 and yes the peep sights are great if you have a good sight picture on a target with a clear uncluttered background but to try to find a grouse head when you have grass or shrubbery in the background is next to impossible. Also did not work well for gopher shooting either, by the time I could find the gopher in the aperture he would be running for the next hole. Rather than spending money on good aperture sights you be far better to invest even in a cheaper scope for hunting purposes.
 
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IMO go with a scope for hunting. Much better clarity and quicker target acquisition. I have match grade aperture sights on my Anschutz .22 and yes the peep sights are great if you have a good sight picture on a target with a clear uncluttered background but to try to find a grouse head when you have grass or shrubbery in the background is next to impossible. Also did not work well for gopher shooting either, by the time I could find the gopher in the aperture he would be running for the next hole. Rather than spending money on good aperture sights you be far better to invest even in a cheaper scope for hunting purposes.
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My thoughts too, I am new to grouse hunting but the area I go is somewhat dense, and they tend to move almost as soon as they see you, with a rifle I'd use a low power scope if I went that route but I use a benelli nova pump with a short barrel and it's been perfect, although a bit heavy so far.
 
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