TriggerTech's description of their AR15 triggers... why am I not understanding this?

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OK so I have limited experience with aftermarket triggers, so I may be daft in my understanding of terminology.
School me as necessary.

I have been competing with an adjustable Jewel Trigger for many years with my F Class gun.
I like to think that it has "100% zero creep"... I define that as "being there is zero take-up in the trigger".
I squeeze it...it goes off. Simple. The break is there instantly at the very start of the pull.

Am I getting this concept of "zero creep" correct ?

I am looking at upgrading my NR-Semi (that accepts AR 15 triggers)....

TriggerTech lists many triggers of with various weight ....https://triggertech.ca/collections/firearms/products/ar15?variant=31958151659594

They are all 2 stage triggers...
OK fine, so when I hear that, I think there is some take-up, then some pressure just before the break.

But then they state that their trigger sets offer " 0.000 creep."
How can this be ?
Is there some take-up in the trigger or not ?

Despite my confusion... how do you all feel about the performance of these triggers ?

I've been using a basic Bravo Company Trigger for my NR-Semi many years, which has plenty of take-up and I've been OK with it.

But I do like a super-light trigger like that in my F T/R gun... would a TriggerTech Adaptable (maybe even Diamond) be a tremendous upgrade over the old Bravo ?
 
I may be wrong, but this is how I’d explain it to customers when I used to fit 1911/2011 triggers as a tiny sideline,

Take up: the amount of travel between the triggers natural reset position and the wall
The wall : this is where the trigger stops travelling freely and where resistance starts
Creep : the amount of travel between the wall and the break, this phase usually feels gritty if there is some
The break : the actual moment where the trigger breaks

And how I feel about TT diamonds?
They we’re a heavy influence on me doing my savage purge and going for an R700 trigger/ Savage barrel thread action.
Never got a savage trigger as nice as a TT diamond, not even close
 
MartyK2500 said:
I may be wrong, but this is how I’d explain it to customers when I used to fit 1911/2011 triggers as a tiny sideline,

Take up: the amount of travel between the triggers natural reset position and the wall
The wall : this is where the trigger stops travelling freely and where resistance starts
Creep : the amount of travel between the wall and the break, this phase usually feels gritty if there is some
The break : the actual moment where the trigger breaks

And how I feel about TT diamonds?
They we’re a heavy influence on me doing my savage purge and going for an R700 trigger/ Savage barrel thread action.
Never got a savage trigger as nice as a TT diamond, not even close
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Agree with your definitions.

Munkey, it sounds like you just haven’t owned enough cheap and crappy guns over your lifetime ;-)

I’ve got a cooey model 82 that has a mile of creep.
 
kodiakjack said:
Agree with your definitions.

Munkey, it sounds like you just haven’t owned enough cheap and crappy guns over your lifetime ;-)

I’ve got a cooey model 82 that has a mile of creep.
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KodiakJack, You might be right... I can be a bit of an equipment snob sometimes. LOL

Marty, after watching the video of the guy who put the diamond trigger on his 3 gun... I think you are probably correct in your assement of them.

The take-up seemed minimal (weight of his finger resting on it) and it didn't look like he was exterting too much for it to break... reset travel is quite nice too.

This may be the trigger for me.
 
On my ARs before the Turd banned ‘em, was running 5.5lbs trigger tech combat triggers.
Broke so clean they felt lighter.
Running Diamonds on my bolt actions.

If ARs become legit again someday, I’d love to try a diamond on what I called my perfect 3 gun/service rifle/mid range (500M) AR setup.
 
I personally like the match style triggers that are single stage and no creep. Usually better for target shooting but I am not a fan of 2 stage triggers.
 
1 stage 2 stage 1lb 5lbs is all the same at the end of the day...
I can seriously and honestly shoot a stock G17gen5 as accurate as a match 1911 (just not as fast).
If fundamentals and no creep are present, weight and stages are secondary...
 
I had a trigger tech diamond ar.
It was a great trigger the first stage is supper light. I think they make them this way for safety. But could have only been a couple oz.
second stage was a clean crisp 2lbs.
Joe
 
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