Every drug store has Kwellada and it is a percentage of permitherin. I had mange once and thats how i got rid of it. It was either the tons of coyotes I caught that one winter or that skeezy hotel I stayed in one night.
Source for Permethrin!
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Mount Sweetness
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Yeah, mosquitos suck but at least they don't carry any debilitating diseases around here (West Nile has been reported in BC but its pretty darn rare still). Mind you, the skeeters were bad when we went on our scouting trip a month ago to south of Quesnel Lake - if you got out of the truck you couldn't stop moving or you'd get swarmed... Now, I expect the bugs wont be as bad as that in a few weeks when we go up for moose, but we'd rather be safe than sorry.
Closer to home I'm not really concerned about mosquitos (although they can be pretty bad north of Harrison Lake during spring bear season), ticks are the primary concern. I pulled one out of me up Harrison a year ago. #### I hate ticks...
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Always nice to have another source. I have been using a 10% livestock solution diluted down to 1% or .5% in spray bottles to spray my hunting and hiking clothes but the issue with the livestock stuff is it usually has other chemicals and oils in it to help it stick to their hide/fur. I'm assuming it's the oils that gives it a bit of an unpleasant smell/scent for a while.
Sentry also makes a flea & tick aerosol spray that is .05% & .056% pyrethrin that people I know have used on clothing but at that dilution I doubt it's as effective or lasts as long. Being made for house pets though it likely doesn't have as much odour to it.
Sentry also makes a flea & tick aerosol spray that is .05% & .056% pyrethrin that people I know have used on clothing but at that dilution I doubt it's as effective or lasts as long. Being made for house pets though it likely doesn't have as much odour to it.
I've got my pharmacist daughter on it.
Does she work at a compounding pharmacy? If she doesn't she wont be able to order it - at least thats what my buddies sister in law said, shes also a pharmacist but doesn't work at a compounding pharmacy and she couldn't get it for us.
I was in my 40s before I'd even seen a tick, but now they seem to be everywhere I am. It's probably not you but your situation.
They are a compounding pharmacy, its a matter if they will order it for a civilian.
Agree — top-notch stuff. Works great sprayed around the campsite or blind.
For clothes, boots, tent etc., I use a 0.5% Permethrin spray.
If mosquitoes are bad, I’ll fire up a Thermacell (permethrin-based) as an “airborne” area repellent.
I might give the DIY route a try, but one question would be how well a DIY treatment holds up over time, because the commercial sprays have a chemical binder that helps keep the permethrin on the fabric over repeated washings, whereas the DIY would not. Not sure how important that is, but in any case a DIY would be cost-effective enough to just reapply for each outing.
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The first place I called was a pain in my arse, didn't understand what I wanted, and eventually just said no. The second place I called was super easy to deal with and had no issues with ordering it for me - And they've already called to say they've got it from the warehouse waiting for me!
Does it have a binder? All I see on that label is a preservative? (not saying you're wrong, this is just the first I've heard it mentioned)
When my buddy went on a trip to Belize about 15 years ago (I think it was with school/Rugby, but I could be wrong) they did the soak-wring-and-dry method and it worked good for their 2 weeks there.
I do have a thermacell, but we're gone for 9 days and thats a lot of refill packs to keep it running the whole time. It'll be great for around camp or sitting in a blind though.
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I believe so — but you’re correct in implying that it’s not for sure, because none of the sprays I’ve come across give a comprehensive list of chemical ingredients, just the active ingredient and maybe the preservative.
My understanding though is that if it’s marketed as holding up to repeated washings, then it likely has the chemical binder agent. I got this from a manufacturer rep at a sportsman’s show, so who knows what that info is worth.
Although this source seems to corroborate what he said:
Reference: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/permethrin
Agree on Thermacell — works when you’re stationary and there’s not much wind — so like you said, campsite or blind. Our family also use it on our deck at home and it works really well. But the downside is that none of these are inexpensive. I’ll stock up when big retailers like Bass Pro have sales on Thermacell refill packs — so same as ammo: when it’s cheap, stack it deep.
My understanding though is that if it’s marketed as holding up to repeated washings, then it likely has the chemical binder agent. I got this from a manufacturer rep at a sportsman’s show, so who knows what that info is worth.
Although this source seems to corroborate what he said:
Reference: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/permethrin
Agree on Thermacell — works when you’re stationary and there’s not much wind — so like you said, campsite or blind. Our family also use it on our deck at home and it works really well. But the downside is that none of these are inexpensive. I’ll stock up when big retailers like Bass Pro have sales on Thermacell refill packs — so same as ammo: when it’s cheap, stack it deep.
Runningfool
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Can anyone confirm that there is permethrin in thermacell pads? I never really thought about them repelling more than mosquitos and black flies - would be nice to know if they are effective at all in repelling ticks.
Mount Sweetness
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Ultra Shield is available at most Feed Warehouse type stores. Horse supply stores etx.
Thermacell uses Allethrin which is like a molecular variant of Permethrin -- they're both synthetic analogs of Pyrethrin (from the Chrysanthemum flower), but they're different enough that allethrin doesn't work on ticks and Permethrin does. Thermacell has a different product for ticks that uses Permethrin.
Earlier I mistakenly said Thermacell used Permethrin -- Sorry about that.
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Thanks for the extra info! I love it when people can actually cite a source! Guess I have one more reason not to wash my hunting clothes! Lol
