Ross m10.. final update on post 37

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So looked at a sported Ross M10 this past spring. Its been sitting for 40 years or so and never shot. Last time it was shot was probably at a coyote and then put away. Now this is one of those farmer finds we all like. So I was out there today and asked about the old ross casually and was told I could have for a lot cheaper then the price was this spring. The bore is dark so I said I will take it and clean it up and go from there.

So the question is,where am I looking for numbers on it? I know nothing about these rifles but all the steel appears original but the stock was sported. But still I have never owned or even shot one so I had to jump at the chance. I took the bolt out which was like dry oil seized and its been sprayed down.

So any help would be appreciated...
 
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If it is an ex-service Mk. III rifle, the serial number would have been stamped on the right side of the butt - a combination of date, a number and letters. These often disappeared when a stock was sported and refinished. Folding aperture sight on rear bridge - service sight. Some Mk. III rifles which saw British service have serial numbers stamped on the receiver ring.
If it is a factory sporter, there will be a little serial number stamped on the left side of the breech, just above the stock line. In addition, a service barrel is quite chunky in front of the receiver, while a factory sporter barrel tapers quickly. A factory sporter had barrel mounted open sights.
A photo would really help.
 
icehunter121 said:
So looked at a sported Ross M10 this past spring. Its been sitting for 40 years or so and never shot. Last time it was shot was probably at a coyote and then put away. Now this is one of those farmer finds we all like. So I was out there today and asked about the old ross casually and was told I could have for a lot cheaper then the price was this spring. The bore is dark so I said I will take it and clean it up and go from there.

So the question is,where am I looking for numbers on it? I know nothing about these rifles but all the steel appears original but the stock was sported. But still I have never owned or even shot one so I had to jump at the chance. I took the bolt out which was like dry oil seized and its been sprayed down.

So any help would be appreciated...
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My first rifle was one of those, gifted to me at 13 in 1967. Still have it.
 
RossRifleNut said:
30.5 inches on the Mk III and they had a heavy barrel, quite a beast to haul around and for that reason most sporters are shortened.
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Well that pretty much does me for buying it. I didn't know what the original barrel length was but me seeing the front sight I was hoping it wasn't cut down. So really all that is worth anything is the sights,cross bolt, misc pieces, trigger assm,mag assm...I don't need a sporter!!
 
icehunter121 said:
Well that pretty much does me for buying it. I didn't know what the original barrel length was but me seeing the front sight I was hoping it wasn't cut down. So really all that is worth anything is the sights,cross bolt, misc pieces, trigger assm,mag assm...I don't need a sporter!!
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Hey it's probably still a great gun, I bought one that looked just like it but the stock wasn't finished as nice, I got a new stock and parts from Ross Rifle Restorations in Edmonton to make it a replica of the experimental 1916 short rifle.

Also one bonus of the short barrel is it probably doesn't have bad mussel wear like an original would, mines a tack driver.

But as an aside if you are going to sell it for parts I need a rear sling swivel :)
 
RossRifleNut said:
Hey it's probably still a great gun, I bought one that looked just like it but the stock wasn't finished as nice, I got a new stock and parts from Ross Rifle Restorations in Edmonton to make it a replica of the experimental 1916 short rifle.

Also one bonus of the short barrel is it probably doesn't have bad mussel wear like an original would, mines a tack driver.

But as an aside if you are going to sell it for parts I need a rear sling swivel :)
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I haven't bought it yet. I told the fella that I would clean the barrel out and we could go from there. So technically,its still for sale!
 
well it looks like it might be a nice sportered example of the ross mk111 and like i said if the bore is deacent then i wouldnt hesitate to buy it .They are accurate and a peice of canadian history .I think you will enjoy it .I saw one similar to yours with the original site sell for 650 on one of the dealer sites a while ago,do some reaserch on the ross history and go from there.Very interesting rifle with a more interesting history.Buy it shoot it ,enjoy it.
 
gordonlbyrne said:
well it looks like it might be a nice sportered example of the ross mk111 and like i said if the bore is deacent then i wouldnt hesitate to buy it .They are accurate and a peice of canadian history .I think you will enjoy it .I saw one similar to yours with the original site sell for 650 on one of the dealer sites a while ago,do some reaserch on the ross history and go from there.Very interesting rifle with a more interesting history.Buy it shoot it ,enjoy it.
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I can get this one for probably 1/3 of the price you posted..
 
I would suggest that $650 for a cut barrel Mk. III sported rifle is ridiculous. Icehunter121's one third of that is more realistic. Assuming that the bore is good enough to be a decent shooter.
The rifle appears to be one of the ones commercially sported in the UK in the '50s, based on the proof marks and the style of alterations. The rivet in the bolt sleeve suggests that the rifle was in service during WW2.
 
There is some confusion regarding Ross Mk III chamber sizes. The following is my understanding of the situation.
The Ross Mk III was initially manufactures with the same minimum-spec chamber found on the Mk II** target rifle. Due to chambering issues with out of spec wartime ammunition, Ross changed their chamber specs. The new chambers more closely resembled the chambers found on the Lee Enfield No 1 Mk III, but are slightly larger. New Ross Mk IIIs with the larger chambers left the factory with an "E" stamped on the barrel reinforce. The "E" does not indicate the chamber was enlarged at some point post manufacture. The chambers of rifles in service were enlarged at armories, and the barrels were stamped with an "LC" or "N". I have never seen an "N" stamped barrel. Although I am not certain, I suspect the armory enlarged chambers were significantly larger than the factory "E" chambers. I intend to do a chamber cast of a recently acquired "E" stamped barrel to confirm my suspicion.
 
If you want to flush out the crud and copper build up in the bore , pour boiling hot water down the bore , followed by Wipe Out Foaming bore cleaner , let it sit for several hours , and you will be amazed at the crud and copper it cleans out
 
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If you want to flush out the crud and copper build up in the bore , pour boiling hot water down the bore , followed by Wipe Out Foaming bore cleaner , let it sit for several hours , and you will be amazed at the crud and copper it cleans out
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That is first up on my list to be done...hot water treatment. I took the rifle apart last night and started to just wipe it down to get the crap off it so I can handle it without being up to my ass in old oils and dirt. Then it gets a nice solvent bath followed by some bore attention.
 
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