aftermidnight
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- West Kelowna BC
stretching the timeframe a little... 41 action express... damn rebated cases lol
Failed cartridges....
- Thread starter Gatehouse
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troutseeker
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Prince George, BC
.375 Ruger...
Dang and I just traded for 350 rem mag which some are saying is dead and buried???
Troutseeker
Dang and I just traded for 350 rem mag which some are saying is dead and buried???Troutseeker
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
While I realize it is way too early, the 30-06 has failed. It's failed to do anything but bore me to tears. 
No. How bout those Red Socks eh
Still lots of folks out there hunting with rifles in 300 Savage
Mostly, Savage 99s but some 110's as well as the odd
Remington 760 or model 700.
As long as the big three keep making ammo for it, I'd say 300 Savage
is on "life support" than being actually dead.
My we have a hard time keeping on the 10 year introduction theme eh!
Predictions for future failure go to the .375 Ruger There are some other manufacturer introduced sales hopefulls that will do the same.
Predictions for renewed interest are .222 Rem. and hopefully .264WM.
I recall when .220 Swift, .221 Fireball. .257 Roberts, .45/70 were all chambers of the past and that was only in the 70's Now look how well they are doing
Predictions for future failure go to the .375 Ruger
There are some other manufacturer introduced sales hopefulls that will do the same.Predictions for renewed interest are .222 Rem. and hopefully .264WM.
I recall when .220 Swift, .221 Fireball. .257 Roberts, .45/70 were all chambers of the past and that was only in the 70's
Now look how well they are doing
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Sales of powerful rifles will never match those .30 caliber and under. Perhaps a family of cartridges will be developed, based on the .375 Ruger.
I think once a number of cartridges are produced on a given head size, that the larger cartridges of the group have a better chance of survival. The .350 Remington could be the exception to the rule. It keeps plugging along without the help by any current down sized cartridges being based on it, while the 6.5 magnum has all but vanished from the scene.
I am confident that .375 Ultra brass will be available for me, for as long as I care.
I think once a number of cartridges are produced on a given head size, that the larger cartridges of the group have a better chance of survival. The .350 Remington could be the exception to the rule. It keeps plugging along without the help by any current down sized cartridges being based on it, while the 6.5 magnum has all but vanished from the scene.
I am confident that .375 Ultra brass will be available for me, for as long as I care.
The .338 and .375 Ultra's are a dying breed. The .17 HM2 as far as I'm concerned will be gone, say what you want. I don't remember when the .260 Rem was legitimized, but it never did too good. Though it is still breathing. The WSSM's aren't too healthy either, particularly the .25. Had it been the .257 WSM, it would have been more popular. Other than that, I think that takes care of the last decade. How about rifles? I've got the last real Winchester catalouge. too bad they didn't last. Or the 710. too bad it did.
Definitely....
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7mm WSM
I gotta admit this one intrigued me at one point in time. Really wanted an Browning A-bolt stainless stalker in it. Was a bit of a let down that most rifle mfg'ers only brought out sporters with 22" barrels for the WSM ctgs. Probably would've been much more efficient with a 24" pipe. Oh well got over my 7mm WSM facination. Will stick with my 7mm-08's and the 7x57mm.
I gotta admit this one intrigued me at one point in time. Really wanted an Browning A-bolt stainless stalker in it. Was a bit of a let down that most rifle mfg'ers only brought out sporters with 22" barrels for the WSM ctgs. Probably would've been much more efficient with a 24" pipe. Oh well got over my 7mm WSM facination. Will stick with my 7mm-08's and the 7x57mm.
It seems to me that handloading has allowed me to play with cartridges that never succeeded but were still rather unique. My .445 Supermags are simply stretch versions of the .44 magnum and not in the same league as the .454 Casull.
Aubrey White's Imperial line is more than 10 years old, but it spawned the RUM line of cartridges.
The .338 RUM is more efficent than the Lapua and virtually identical ballistically. Nonetheless, I opted for the Lapua due to availability of cartridges worldwide (although it's still hard to find).
The .308 Marlin is doomed. So is the .30 TC and the .450 Marlin. The .376 Steyr is fun, quite efficient, and available in a handsome carbine, but it is doomed.
The .405 Winchester is a revived antique and respectible, but doomed. Sorry about that, I know other's hope it will last.
I disagree on the .375 RUM. It is efficient and offers somewhat more velocity for a flatter trajectory than the H&H, but it doesn't create the hideous blast of the .378 Weatherby. It's also available in a neat carbine with Hogue overmolded stock and according to friends, is selling like hotcakes in Alaska.
I've been wrong before, most notably with the .357 Sig which was adopted by several police agencies.
The .45 GAP is a thorough flop. So was the Winchester 9x23, (not the old largo). Both are dead, dead, dead.
The .260 Remington didn't exactly do anything for me and a lot of others seem to feel the same way. It's going to be around but will eventually die off.
The 6.8 the yanks are fiddling with isn't exactly doing much because it really doesn't do that much. The 6.5 Grendal is far superior, but seems to be going nowhere.
The entire line of Lazzeroni cartridges are terrific if you don't mind fitting a new barrel every thousand rounds. Sako chambered their TRG-S for one or two Lazzeroni cartridges for increased appeal due to reduced cost, but they didn't sell. They are doomed as likely so shall their company be.
The entire line of Dakota cartridges is about gone due to the collapse of the company. It has been sold and reorganized, but no one else chambers their cartridges. It didn't help that they put so much capitol into cartridge development and marketing. Darn fine guns, though.
Aubrey White's Imperial line is more than 10 years old, but it spawned the RUM line of cartridges.
The .338 RUM is more efficent than the Lapua and virtually identical ballistically. Nonetheless, I opted for the Lapua due to availability of cartridges worldwide (although it's still hard to find).
The .308 Marlin is doomed. So is the .30 TC and the .450 Marlin. The .376 Steyr is fun, quite efficient, and available in a handsome carbine, but it is doomed.
The .405 Winchester is a revived antique and respectible, but doomed. Sorry about that, I know other's hope it will last.
I disagree on the .375 RUM. It is efficient and offers somewhat more velocity for a flatter trajectory than the H&H, but it doesn't create the hideous blast of the .378 Weatherby. It's also available in a neat carbine with Hogue overmolded stock and according to friends, is selling like hotcakes in Alaska.
I've been wrong before, most notably with the .357 Sig which was adopted by several police agencies.
The .45 GAP is a thorough flop. So was the Winchester 9x23, (not the old largo). Both are dead, dead, dead.
The .260 Remington didn't exactly do anything for me and a lot of others seem to feel the same way. It's going to be around but will eventually die off.
The 6.8 the yanks are fiddling with isn't exactly doing much because it really doesn't do that much. The 6.5 Grendal is far superior, but seems to be going nowhere.
The entire line of Lazzeroni cartridges are terrific if you don't mind fitting a new barrel every thousand rounds. Sako chambered their TRG-S for one or two Lazzeroni cartridges for increased appeal due to reduced cost, but they didn't sell. They are doomed as likely so shall their company be.
The entire line of Dakota cartridges is about gone due to the collapse of the company. It has been sold and reorganized, but no one else chambers their cartridges. It didn't help that they put so much capitol into cartridge development and marketing. Darn fine guns, though.
- Location
- Vancouver Island BC
I believe the .375 Ruger has already failed, a .243 will do just as well.
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