Why is the prices on everything going nutz?

My area cant even get pressure treated lumber. Im glad i bought majority of what i needed a few months ago

No where in Ontario can get PT lumber... They get ramdom trucks in with random skids of mixed lumber... I have never stockpiled lumber in my life but I was forced to do that this summer, it was that or turn down work.
 
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A sheet of 7/16 OSB jumped from $17.99 to $39.99 , in just under a month.
2x6x8 $7.99 up to $15.99 .
And they say its gonna get worst lol
All they're doing is making a rod for their own arse,as nobody will be able to afford any new construction.
 
No where in Ontario can get PT lumber... They get ramdom trucks in with random skids of mixed lumber... I have never stockpiled lumber in my life but I was forced to do that this summer, it was that or turn down work.

They shut down a lot of the sawmills here on the west coast so they could ship raw logs out of the country and our government sat back and let it happen. Our own mills could have easily supplied our country.
 
Yes, lumber prices have gone crazy! As I mentioned in another thread, I priced out the wood for a small chicken coop/woodshed, and it came to just over 3 grand!! And not even pressure treated. Bought an entry level sawmill instead.

Kind of neat to see other guys are having the same problems getting what used to be 'the basics'.


I was about to start stockpiling hardware now as well (screws, framing nails, threaded rod, carriage bolts ect). IMo, only a matter of time before the price or availability of these things goes loopy as well, I think.
 
Took us 2 months and a thousand conversations with Home Depot, to finally get the three windows we ordered from them. It was such a runaround that they finally ordered 3 new ones custom made for us, and refunded our money (happy ending. Good on them :)).

Direct bury wire is also hard to find. I ended up settling for 8/3, instead of the 4 or 6 gauge I was after. I bought three times as much as I needed too, expecting to not be able to get it again.

Shortages and price insanity seems to be across the board
 
2020 is not finished with its tricks. Trump will get to appoint another judge for the supreme Court. Excellent.

Oh I think 2020 has plenty more to give.

I'm recovering from a slipped disc from hitting the gym last week and luckily not a surgery required but rest and pills.

Seeing the states sliding into civil war is like watching a train wreck in slow mo
 
Cgn has a slow uptake when it comes to price increases.

I recently put a gun on consignment at a local gun store which sold that same day they listed it, but sat on the EE for more than a year where it could have been purchased for less.

Gun bans only reduce supply while creating extra demand for what is left so prices go up
 
They shut down a lot of the sawmills here on the west coast so they could ship raw logs out of the country and our government sat back and let it happen. Our own mills could have easily supplied our country.

I may be mistaken but I think it's been heading this direction for a decade or two. I lived in Squamish for a while in 2005/06 just after the mill closed there. The biggest problem seemed to be the ridiculous cost of labour. Local guys told me about new high school grads getting jobs driving shuttles between the dock and the mill making close to $60k/year. Government intervention or not, it seemed that this stuff was destined to go offshore.
 
Would it be safe to say 'milsurps' have doubled in price over the last 3 +/- years? High end stuff (always expensive) not so much but the regular fare.
 
I may be mistaken but I think it's been heading this direction for a decade or two. I lived in Squamish for a while in 2005/06 just after the mill closed there. The biggest problem seemed to be the ridiculous cost of labour. Local guys told me about new high school grads getting jobs driving shuttles between the dock and the mill making close to $60k/year. Government intervention or not, it seemed that this stuff was destined to go offshore.

That's the never ending conundrum isn't it? No union? You get a McJob. Union? Enjoy your job while it lasts here. I think some unions do a really good job for their members with what they have, like Unifor, and others are just another part of the bloated bureaucracy (any teachers or police unions...).
 
I may be mistaken but I think it's been heading this direction for a decade or two. I lived in Squamish for a while in 2005/06 just after the mill closed there. The biggest problem seemed to be the ridiculous cost of labour. Local guys told me about new high school grads getting jobs driving shuttles between the dock and the mill making close to $60k/year. Government intervention or not, it seemed that this stuff was destined to go offshore.

50 - 60k a year is not that much, its barely a liveable wage by todays standards. Have a look at what corporate co's make with all their bonuses, thats what I call ridiculous.
 
50 - 60k a year is not that much, its barely a liveable wage by todays standards. Have a look at what corporate co's make with all their bonuses, thats what I call ridiculous.

This was nearly 20 years ago. To start at $60k with a high school diploma? That was very high at the time.
 
This was nearly 20 years ago. To start at $60k with a high school diploma? That was very high at the time.

Yes it was, and union wages here on the west coast haven't kept up with the cost of living. I know from working in the mill what the wages were back then and believe me your starting wages are exaggerated. I was a lead hand on shift so I was on top rate and barely made over 60k a year if I didn't work overtime and that was in 2008.
 
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