Used Leupold scopes or worthwhile alternatives?

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Not sure how to explain what I’m looking for. I’ve typically spent less than $100 used or new on a scope, with glass to match the budget. ZI’m hoping to get a good optical quality used scope, it seems a no brainer to go for a Leupold. Any others to watch for? Less common brands or models that have nice glass but might be passed over by most used shoppers? My preference is one with a bottom end below 3X like 2-7 or 1.5-5 etc but in reality a 3-9 or fixed 2.5, 4, or 6x may be just as good.

Part of he reason I’m asking is that I haven’t handled many good quality scopes and I’m pretty far from gun shops to go snooping.

Looking for a recommendation from someone in the know as far as what to look for in the used market for say $200-400 or $300-500 range.

Thanks in advance
 
A brand name scope by a manufacturer that is still in business will likely have access to customer service. Leupolds are certainly in this category. Weaver scopes are no longer made, but can be serviced.

I like the old steel Weavers. Bushnell Scopechiefs. Redfield Five Stars. Brand name scopes that were in the upper grades can be excellent buys.

Buying a used scope is buying a pig in a poke. Appearance is important, as are clear optics. But you are probably not going to be able to test the tracking of the adjustments, or how it holds zero.

Used promotional grade scopes might be OK, but I don't think they are worth bothering with.
 
Might help to read to recognize the older stuff. Technology for glass quality and coatings has come a long way since 1950's. But looking through a higher end Hensoldt, probably from 1960's, can take your breathe away! For me, scopes are about their guts - tracking, holding zero, first. Then quality of view helps. Also, how you use a scope. I sight in, and then never touch the turrets until checking sighting in again. Some rifles and scope of mine have not been adjusted for 15 years - still right where I want them. But some shooters "twirl" turret adjustments for virtually every shot - that is putting different demand on the scope internal design. I do not use rifle scope as a spotting scope - I use binoculars for glassing. Scopes, to me, are a sighting instrument, first. To me, the fine optic qualities are very much secondary to the guts of the thing. It has to work reliably as a sight, first.

Weaver K, K 60 and the like are probably not sealed - will fog up with temperature changes. The earliest plain K probably does not even have a centered cross hair - cross hair moves within the view as you sight in rifle. But known to be very "tough" in their day - Finn Aargaard bought his second Win70 375 H&H in 1969 and installed a "new" Weaver K2.5 scope (to replace the plain "K" that came with it), in Weaver rings, which that rifle still wears to day. In his article "Adventures with the 375 H&H", he says he fired over 2,000 rounds with no issues. While the Weaver company was still in USA, they did numerous improvements - I have two or three that I think are Weaver's "best" - K4-1 and a K3-1, both with the word "micro-trac" on left side of the top turret.

Like many other things today, though, a "Weaver" made today in China, does not see to me to be the same as a Weaver K4-1 made in El-Paso. Same with Redfield. Same with Bushnells in general - I do have several with the Bausch and Lomb logo (B&L) made in Japan, and they seem just fine. Minimal personal experience with the scopes out of China or Philippines or Taiwan - seem to be "riding" on the reputation that the brand earned when their products were built elsewhere...

Redfield, today, is apparently a Leupold line - was not always that way. Father in law used a 4 power Redfield on 30-06 since 1970's on Vancouver Island (rain, wet, but no bitter cold) - still functions fine today.

Scopechief VI has held up well - I have a 4-12 - no complaints at all.

I have and have used a couple Tasco, made in Japan - 1.75-5 and 3-9 - have yet to have either "break" or fail, and we have been using the smaller one on a 30-06 since 1970's. Had read that there is no "Tasco" scope factory - they used jobbers and various suppliers to put together a scope as per specs of the buyer - so probably from $39.99 Walmart (I do not know that) to scopes for US Marine Corp (I do know that - they are the same as the SWFA scopes, also built by "Tasco" - built to meet a specific US Marine Corp specification)

To outfit yourself, probably want three functions - a scoped sight on your rifle, a glassing tool and a rangefinder (unless mostly "point blank" in bush). I use various scopes - most fixed power Leupolds - 3x, 4x and 6x on various rifles. I wear a Leupold RB-800 which is an 8x32 binocular with a built in laser rangefinder. My brother uses a Zeiss scope on his rifle, wears a Leica 10x binocular on his neck, and carries a Bushnell (?) rangefinder in his pocket. Choices will be different if you are driving around in pickup truck in flatland Southern Saskatchewan, slopping through bush and swamp in North East Saskatchewan, or climbing those "hills" in North West Alberta. Never hunted in Shield country in Ontario, but I imagine some combination of all of the above?

If you have never done so, it is unbelievable how much more there is to see in the bush, if you use even 7x or 8x binoculars - while in the bush! Try it!
 
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bide your time and watch the EE.
I've purchased several used Leupolds with no regrets. I have an oooold vari x iii 6.5-20 efr on my cz455, a vxiii 6.5-20 on a rebarelled mauser and varix iii 3.5-10 on a norc m14s.

I saved quite a bit of money buying used, but the products are good and korth is available to deal with any issues.
 
Ha! I guess I am VERY old - that Vari-X III line of Leupold scopes was made 1974 to 1983 (1/2" friction). That whole Leupold line was very confusing regarding the name they used - there was also a Vari-X III with 1/4 MOA "clicks" from 1983 to 2003, then a VX-III from 2004 to 2009, then a VX-3 after 2009. There used to be a chart on Leupold FAQ page showing their various lines - I no longer see it? But can go there and look up serial number to find out what year that your Leupold scope was made.
 
Potashminer: that was one of the things I was wondering was how the Leupold model nomenclature worked, it sounds like they haven’t been consistent over the decades. Is it possible to look up serial numbers and get details on a used scope or just the year of manufacturing?
 
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I have an off brand 3-9x40 on my 30-06 that has been there since the mid 70's when my wife bought it for me. I would have to go and check to see the actual make but it has suffered through 45 years of banging around hunting and is still a solid scope. It isn't broken so I won't fix it.
 
The other brands I was looking at are Burris and Nikon, have they been consistent quality wise over the years? Any lemons to avoid?

I have a few Nikon scopes that I like but keep in mind Nikon no longer makes or sells rifle scopes and as a few have mentioned here on CGN you need your original receipt for any warranty service from them and even then people had some issues. Not much experience with Burris but I have heard good things.

If it were me I would simply pick up an inexpensive, used Leupold scope and you are good to go. In the unlikely event that you need it Leupold warranty is rock solid and they will repair OR replace your scope even if you purchased it used, just make sure you don't buy a knock-off by mistake. You can call Leupold and have them check the serial # of any Leupold scope you want to buy and they will tell you if it is authentic or not.
 
Potashminer: that was one of the things I was wondering was how the Leupold model nomenclature worked, it sounds like they haven’t been consistent over the decades. Is it possible to look up serial numbers and get details on a used scope or just the year of manufacturing?

PM with image was sent to you. Hoping it worked? I think most all have since been replaced with the VX-Freedom series - I bought 3 x 3-9x40 VX-Freedom in 2019 - two are on .223 Rem, one is on Grandson's new .243. Doubt any have seen 100 rounds yet, and this is only their second year in use, but so far, so good - very decent glass and controls - the "looks" are not too shabby either. I also bought a new VX-3i 3.5-10x40 this past spring - to go on a 7mm WBY Mag - Weatherby Mark V - have not fired that one yet - can not find ammo!!!
 
Hard to imagine going wrong with an earlier fixed power Leupold. I must have at least six of them on various rifles. M8-3x, M8-4x and M8-6x. Note that the 6 power had at least two sizes of objectives - both mine are the 38mm front end; was also made with 42 mm objective. The two elk that I shot with the 38mm objective did not seem to notice any "difference". I bought a used Vari-X III 2.5-8x36, made in 2002, from CGN, in fall of 2019 - paid just under $400 mailed to me - going to be installed on my "fancy" Ruger #1 - 275 Rigby - have not yet "done the deed" - it is wearing an M8-4x for now...
 
The Vari-X III scopes are a great buy IMHO. Light weight, solid, decent glass, and have a unique range of magnifications that give you more options instead of the the classic 1-4, 2-7, 3-9 magnifications. Plus, they are still cheaper than a new equally capable Leupold.

If your prefer a 2-7 you can fine tune your preference with either a 1.75-6 or a 2.5-8. If you like the 3-9 you can go with a 2.5-8 or 3.5-10.

The 1.75-6 and 2.5-8 scopes are my preference as I’ve always favoured a 2-7. The 1.5-5 is good, but I like having a straight 1x on the low range instead of the 1.5x.
 
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The other brands I was looking at are Burris and Nikon, have they been consistent quality wise over the years? Any lemons to avoid?

I do believe Burris struck up partnership with Nikon out of Philippines for short time. Excellent glass terrible reticles came loose much too soon.
I think that's why for a time Burris placed an additional sticker on thier rifles scopes saying made in USA.
 
I think I’ll stick to looking for a used Leupold. It was the go to scope in all the gun magazines when I was a kid but we never had the money for anything like that. It’s kinda nice to be able to get stuff like that now 25-30 years later.

The gun it’s going on is what I grab to investigate odd farmyard sounds in the evening. Realistically if it saves some livestock from a coyote it will cover the cost of a good used scope really fast.

The scope that’s on the gun now is the right magnification but the glass is a letdown around dusk.
 
I do believe Burris struck up partnership with Nikon out of Philippines for short time. Excellent glass terrible reticles came loose much too soon.
I think that's why for a time Burris placed an additional sticker on thier rifles scopes saying made in USA.

I would not use a Burris scope if they were giving them away for free
Leupold all the way
Vortex a very close 2nd
 
I would not use a Burris scope if they were giving them away for free
Leupold all the way
Vortex a very close 2nd

I have also six Leupolds a Weaver T-10, a Lyman Benchrest and a NF. One Burris Fastfire.

Burris has a good niche market with the Fastfire series.
Affordable red dot optics Leupold has neglected.

To each his own I would never touch a Vortex myself.
 
The old Weavers made in the U.S.A. were good and many are still working well today. The glass can't match what's in more modern scopes but they were well made. Potashminer mentioned "micro trac", those are the later, better American made ones. Weaver's Classic K (fixed power) and Classic V (variable power) models made in Japan came after, they have better glass and are good value. The recent Kaspa line they had made in China are not in the same class.

Tasco started out getting scopes made for them in Japan, their quality was as good back then as Bushnell's. Bausch&Lomb were very good, too, in their day. The Elite 3000 and 4000 models were continued for a while when Bushnell bought the brand, then Bushnell dropped the B&L name and labelled them Elite 3200 and 4200. Bushnell was still honouring the B&L warranties last I heard.
 
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