Sako A7 , long throat, how are you loading?

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Received my Sako A7 today in 300 WM.

It is a 3.340" detachable magazine.

With the Scirocco's I want to try it is 3.600" to the lands.

Are folks single feeding these critters or finding a load at mag length with less case capacity?

What do your rifles seem to like for length?
 
My 308 Norma has a similar throat, 3.39" OAL is the mag box limit and a lot of bullets are .180 to .260" jump. Shoots any bullet I have tried well. Have shot A-Frames, but not Sciroccos yet
 
I've had a couple of SakoA7 rifles over the last couple of years.

All were standard calibers, 22-250, 6.5x55 and 30-06.

None of the rifles were new, but all were in excellent condition.

All of them had LONG THROATS, which seems to be normal for the breed.

I'm a bit anal about getting the ogive of the bullet fairly close to the leade for best accuracy consistency.

I couldn't get close to the leade on any of the rifles, if I loaded the cartridges to fit/feed from the magazine well.

With the 6.5x55, the throat was so deep that I couldn't seat a 140 gr SST far enough out to touch the leade.

I tried several different OALs, measured on the ogives, with a nut gauge and calipers.

It didn't make any difference, that would be noticed in the real world, in the field.

The 22-250 groups didn't change more than 1/8 moa out to 300yds with any depth seat, once I established the load it liked.

The 6,5x55 was a bit fussier but still, not more dispersion than 1/2 moa out to 300yds.

The 30-06 was just like the 22-250.

All of these rifles shot slightly over moa or less, depending on how well I was shooting at the time. None of them were fussy about bullet weights or shape.

My step son has the 22-250 and it's one of those jewels that shoots factory ammo almost as well as handloads. The other two were fussy about factory ammo, but each had a couple of brands they liked.

The chambers in these rifles are on the low end of mean diameters. The throats are tight and this is conducive to good accuracy.

I'm willing to go so far as to say that you won't gain enough accuracy to worry about by trying to increase the OAL to the point you have to single load.
 
I've had a couple of SakoA7 rifles over the last couple of years.

All were standard calibers, 22-250, 6.5x55 and 30-06.

None of the rifles were new, but all were in excellent condition.

All of them had LONG THROATS, which seems to be normal for the breed.

I'm a bit anal about getting the ogive of the bullet fairly close to the leade for best accuracy consistency.

I couldn't get close to the leade on any of the rifles, if I loaded the cartridges to fit/feed from the magazine well.

With the 6.5x55, the throat was so deep that I couldn't seat a 140 gr SST far enough out to touch the leade.

I tried several different OALs, measured on the ogives, with a nut gauge and calipers.

It didn't make any difference, that would be noticed in the real world, in the field.

The 22-250 groups didn't change more than 1/8 moa out to 300yds with any depth seat, once I established the load it liked.

The 6,5x55 was a bit fussier but still, not more dispersion than 1/2 moa out to 300yds.

The 30-06 was just like the 22-250.

All of these rifles shot slightly over moa or less, depending on how well I was shooting at the time. None of them were fussy about bullet weights or shape.

My step son has the 22-250 and it's one of those jewels that shoots factory ammo almost as well as handloads. The other two were fussy about factory ammo, but each had a couple of brands they liked.

The chambers in these rifles are on the low end of mean diameters. The throats are tight and this is conducive to good accuracy.

I'm willing to go so far as to say that you won't gain enough accuracy to worry about by trying to increase the OAL to the point you have to single load.

Then I should be good, I'll load for 3.330" OAL and do my charge tests with a couple powders and go from there.

If I get 1-1.25 MOA I will be more than content.
 
Don't worry about where your lands are, if you are hunting with the rifle you need to be able to feed from the mag.

Lots of bullets will shoot tiny little groups with a huge jump.

I'll bet if 10 buddies came over and measured base to ogive to touch the lands on your new A7 all 10 would have a different measurement...as long as the rifle shoots, it doesn't really matter how much jump or jam you have.

Eagerly awaiting your first range report with the A7....:)
 
Don't worry about where your lands are, if you are hunting with the rifle you need to be able to feed from the mag.

Lots of bullets will shoot tiny little groups with a huge jump.

I'll bet if 10 buddies came over and measured base to ogive to touch the lands on your new A7 all 10 would have a different measurement...as long as the rifle shoots, it doesn't really matter how much jump or jam you have.

Eagerly awaiting your first range report with the A7....:)

Just waiting for some steel scope bases or I would be out there right now.

Don't want to push the aluminum bases.
 
Just waiting for some steel scope bases or I would be out there right now.

Don't want to push the aluminum bases.

You will definitely get good loads with your A7. Great to start with 3.32-3.33 to be safe. Monitor your speed and the size of you groupings. If you have low SD for speed and reasonable groups, work on seating depth by lowering it 0.01 inch at a time.. If you have high SD change loads, primers or powder. Good luck.

PS: I have an A7 in 270 win. it gets easily 0.7 moa. Sometimes 0.5 and in one case 0.3.
 
You will definitely get good loads with your A7. Great to start with 3.32-3.33 to be safe. Monitor your speed and the size of you groupings. If you have low SD for speed and reasonable groups, work on seating depth by lowering it 0.01 inch at a time.. If you have high SD change loads, primers or powder. Good luck.

PS: I have an A7 in 270 win. it gets easily 0.7 moa. Sometimes 0.5 and in one case 0.3.

Looks like 3.340" will cycle , now we wait.
 
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