Old school british stock oils
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My contacts in England often make positive comments about that stuff. Widely used.
I dont have his contact info if you wouldnt mind passing that on please
I may feel better when i see it in person. If not ill look into the avenues of changing it. I dont want to loose the character of the grain under a stain though.
This lil 20ga will be my marsh and dove gun in areas i dont want to chase emptys from my a400 in
I'll pm you. With the stain, the mineral lines will get darker as the background becoems more reddish. I'm really starting to think that's going away with the red oil. BTW, you might consider (if you get this far) doing a second coat of red oil only on the lighter area. Each coat makes it a bit darker and if the colour didn't balance out after the first coat, that may be a way to get where you want to be.
I was thinking the same thing. Really looks like what happens when a leather pad is left on but of course that stock doesn't have the tell tail straight edge in the discolouration. Something is going on though.
While not typically a fan of the reddish result of alkanet use, when I was having my Lindner Daly restored this past spring, we went with it as it was original to the gun.
Here's are some pics of the stock prior to staining:
Here's a pic during and just after the liberal application of the alkanet oil:
And here is the final result:
It was just one coat of the alkanet oil, applied very liberally and then left to dry for 24 plus hours before he started the slacum oil finish. FWIW, he did mention to me that when possible, he likes the alkanet oil application to dry outside and in sunlight.
That is just beautiful. I love the color and last winter was trying to get the same sheen/satin look playing with different finishes. Any idea how this is achieved? Is it rubbed with pumice after or does it dry this way which I don't think.
So I was reading some of the links posted and have a few questions:
1..alkanet root...is this just a ground powder? I found some at a botanical place that will ship it here in Canada. I am thinking of buying a pound of it.
2.. Spirit of turpentine..is this just the turpentine that is bought at hardware stores?
3..Carnauba wax. I have some pure carnauba wax at work ( autobody) would this work? Its made by mothers and used on vehicles.
4...Venice turpentine..reading up on that it sounds like its used on horse hoofs. Is this correct before I contact my buddy who is a ferrier? Or is there a different venice turpentine?
1..alkanet root...is this just a ground powder? I found some at a botanical place that will ship it here in Canada. I am thinking of buying a pound of it.
2.. Spirit of turpentine..is this just the turpentine that is bought at hardware stores?
3..Carnauba wax. I have some pure carnauba wax at work ( autobody) would this work? Its made by mothers and used on vehicles.
4...Venice turpentine..reading up on that it sounds like its used on horse hoofs. Is this correct before I contact my buddy who is a ferrier? Or is there a different venice turpentine?
Icehunter, first the finish was achieved by using a formula similar to the one I posted earlier in this thread, many very thin coats over about 6-8 weeks rubbed in by hand, using the heat generated by friction to help work the oil into the wood.
Second, I doubt you need a pound of alkanet to make the red oil.
Third, for much more detailed answers from people in England who do this for a living, go to the DoubleGun BB and go to the DIY forums. Numerous threads on this subject, including all the ingredients.
I received the gun today. The end is lighter but the shine of the wood and dancing of the light thru the grain almost hide it at certain angles and reveal other light spots in other areas. Its alot better than i thought it was going to be. I actually quite like it. Im sure a better oil finish would really bring out the grain but as for now im happy. This gun will see use this fall and winter
That said thus has been a very informative thread and ive made a couple contacts to have it refinished when the original finish fades thru use. Thanks to all who posted
That said thus has been a very informative thread and ive made a couple contacts to have it refinished when the original finish fades thru use. Thanks to all who posted
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Good to hear it's not as bad as you thought, there's nothing worse than being unhappy with a new purchase!
It actually has alot of play in the colors with different angles and light sources. I was very pleased until the wife claimed it. Now she wants 20 to 410 tubes for it
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Haha, oh well I guess you'll just have to buy another one, Happy wife, happy life as they say!
Been looking into ingredients to make this.
Not interested in the dye at this point but Amazon.ca has alkanet root in a smaller quantity than one pound, and they claim it's premium quality: https://www.amazon .ca/Pure-Dyers-Alkanet-Powder-Tinctoria/dp/B07VS3TQ83/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=alkanet+root&qid=1603274220&sr=8-6
Spirits of turpentine does appear to be regular turpentine, at least Wikipedia says so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpentine I sort of remember that from the Brits in my life too.
Venice Turpentine is used on horses' hooves all right, but a finer form probably comes from art supply stores, and this site provides some idea of both what it bring to the mix as well as what it's made from, ie, European larch trees (cue Monty Python sketch): https://www.dickblick. com/products/sennelier-venice-turpentine/
If I go ahead with making this stuff, I would probably use Amazon again to get this small quantity of carnauba wax, which again is supposed to be ultra high quality with no danger of anything mixed in: https://www.amazon .ca/Carnauba-Organic-Flakes-Pastilles-Premium/dp/B01M4HGNOM/ref=sr_1_4?crid=P4ZB9WLEZRQB&dchild=1&keywords=carnauba+wax+food+grade&qid=1603274405&sprefix=carnuba+wax%2Caps%2C174&sr=8-4
Hey, Thanks for the info. I found a place in Canada that has alkanet root so placed a order...and nothing!! Its a company down east and I made the order,added a card number and it wouldn't fill so I sent them a e-mail and they haven't got back to me so I ordered from Amazon. I have the alkanet and carnauba coming. I have read other finishes that use carnauba so it should still be used. Amazon does have spirit of turp. listed but its like $110.00 for 16 ounces so I will check into that one more. I called the local vet clinic and also talked to a local ferrier about the Venice turp. and they both didn't know where to get it. But I do know of a horse chick that might know about it so gonna talk to her yet. ( an NO I am not gonna ask her for a date!! long story!!)
So at least I should be able to get rockin on the stain part.
