Can you shoot pen-raised game birds off season?

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Pretty straightforward question...If I raise pheasants on the farm, or grouse or ducks or anything, can I shoot them? Thinking about doing it for dog training purposes. Google says in some places yes but didn't see anything Canada specific.
 
I don't see why it would be any different than shooting your cow or pig. Might want to check with your local game warden though.
 
Huh, well there we have it.

Cruelty to Animals

445.1 (1) Every one commits an offence who (d) (...) takes part in any (...) event at (...) which captive birds are liberated (...) for the purpose of being shot when they are liberated

Now you got me wondering, do you guys just know the criminal code inside out?? I never would have thought to search that.
 
Huh, well there we have it.



Now you got me wondering, do you guys just know the criminal code inside out?? I never would have thought to search that.

newbreedfarm.ca This place is 5 minutes from my house and that is exactly what they do. Pelee Island has made an industry of farmed pheasant hunts. There must be some allowance/ variance from the criminal code section quoted.
Just to clarify. You pay for farm raised birds to be released and you shoot them.
 
How in hell do you train dogs without live birds? I have been to trials in Alberta where birds are shot as part of the trial and as as far as I know no one has ever been charged. That sounds like an SPCA or PETA influenced law to me.
 
Very interesting. I'm wondering what the work-around for this is - certainly game clubs across the country are not running afoul of the criminal code?!
 
(d) promotes, arranges, conducts, assists in, receives money for or takes part in any meeting, competition, exhibition, pastime, practice, display or event at or in the course of which captive birds are liberated by hand, trap, contrivance or any other means for the purpose of being shot when they are liberated; or

I'm no lawyer, but to me that's talking about shooting them straight out of the box/trap, or releasing one by hand while another beside you shoots it. If you release them into the wild and then hunt, a different thing.
 
(d) promotes, arranges, conducts, assists in, receives money for or takes part in any meeting, competition, exhibition, pastime, practice, display or event at or in the course of which captive birds are liberated by hand, trap, contrivance or any other means for the purpose of being shot when they are liberated; or

I'm no lawyer, but to me that's talking about shooting them straight out of the box/trap, or releasing one by hand while another beside you shoots it. If you release them into the wild and then hunt, a different thing.

^^^ this. It's in the bold text... "when they are liberated" not "after they are liberated". I'm not sure there is much reasoning behind this except to force a particular definition of sportsmanship...(can't say I disagree, but I despise the issue of force...) I expect whole bit of the CC on animal cruelty is motivated by those intentionally being cruel as clearly there is exception to wasting people's domestic pets that are harassing/threat to livestock. Of course I'm not naive to ignore the fact leftards are always seeking angles to ban hunting... one of the last few reasons they still concede is a legitimate purpose for owning guns.
 
I think it refers to the way they used to conduct live pigeon shoot competitions where the bird was released for a trap and the shooter had to knock it down before it got out of a perscribed circle. Another form was a guy would hold the bird and pitch it and the shooter then takes the bird. There was big money in those competitions.
 
I think it refers to the way they used to conduct live pigeon shoot competitions where the bird was released for a trap and the shooter had to knock it down before it got out of a perscribed circle. Another form was a guy would hold the bird and pitch it and the shooter then takes the bird. There was big money in those competitions.

Its still a thing in some countries. I hear the super-wealthy in the middle east still do it, and I wouldn't be surprised if you could do something very similar in a lot of impoverished nations - as they say, money talks.
 
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