Caliber / rifle for kids

I went to work to modify a "full size" stock for younger grandson - discovered it is more than shortening the butt stock length of pull - also will want to slim the fore end so they can grab it securely, and deal with the pistol grip - have to reduce length of reach to trigger for little fingers, and also to reduce circumference of that pistol grip for little hands to hang on to it properly. Often overlooked by us "big people"...

That's true. Actually found that a small, youth .22 is a bit too beefy in the fore end. The butt stock is slimmed down, but could be pared down more up front.

I think the lever actions are usually easier to hang onto for smaller hands.
 
That is never easy. It has somehow been 5 years since my dad passed away. Hard to believe.

Yes... very difficult loss to process. My father and I were very close and spent a lot of time together... his passing will leave a big hole... I have a close relationship with my kids aswell, so the cycle continues.
 
Don't forget about 9mm when moving up from a 22.

There are all sorts of good 9mm rifle options available now (Just Right Carbine, Ruger PC9, KelTec Sub2000, Beretta CX4 Storm, etc).

Unfortunately they're all semi-auto, though, which is normally cool, but I'd prefer a bolt or lever for kids.

Still, if your kid can handle a semi-auto, don't overlook 9mm options. If you get 147gr ammo it fires even softer because it's just under supersonic.
 
Don't forget about 9mm when moving up from a 22.

There are all sorts of good 9mm rifle options available now (Just Right Carbine, Ruger PC9, KelTec Sub2000, Beretta CX4 Storm, etc).

Unfortunately they're all semi-auto, though, which is normally cool, but I'd prefer a bolt or lever for kids.

Still, if your kid can handle a semi-auto, don't overlook 9mm options. If you get 147gr ammo it fires even softer because it's just under supersonic.

so i can justify the Ruger PCC9 as "for the kids" Genius!!!

And since its "for the kids" id obviously need an adjustable stock...
 
Don't forget about 9mm when moving up from a 22.

There are all sorts of good 9mm rifle options available now (Just Right Carbine, Ruger PC9, KelTec Sub2000, Beretta CX4 Storm, etc).

Unfortunately they're all semi-auto, though, which is normally cool, but I'd prefer a bolt or lever for kids.

Still, if your kid can handle a semi-auto, don't overlook 9mm options. If you get 147gr ammo it fires even softer because it's just under supersonic.

My youngest son started out with a 16.5" barreled T/C Contender carbine in 22LR match chamber he then moved up to an 18" Contender barrel in 10mm and a 21" Contender barrel in 410.

He's thirteen now has a LH Savage Axis youth in 243 he also likes shooting a 21" Contender barrel in 7-30 Waters and another in 35 Rem.

His favorite Contender fits on the front handlebars of his dirt bike it is a 14" barreled Contender in 375JDJ loaded with 220gr Hornady JFP @ 2250fps.

 
Certainly a .22 rimfire has its place in marksmanship training since the more we can shoot, the better we will shoot when the fundamentals of marksmanship are adhered to. The affordability of rimfire ammo means that much more shooting can be done than could be with centerfire ammunition alone, but a handloader can make almost any centerfire round manageable for a youngster.

Shooting a .223 or a light loaded .30/06 for that matter, will quickly dispel the novice's apprehensiveness about shooting a physically larger round, which if left to fester could become difficult to overcome if the kid is always told he's not ready for the big gun, or worse, allowed to shoot a heavy kicking gun that hurts him. If you were one of those kids that was passed a long stocked, 6 pound 12 ga single-shot, with a plastic butt plate, that was loaded with an ounce and seven-eighths 3" magnum, lets agree not continue that unfortunate tradition. Even better is a forend that separates from the gun in recoil, and an action that drops open each time it fires. Perhaps that's the gun that should be reserved for cocky teenagers, but its probably better just to let the tradition die.

Its a lucky youngster who is able to shoot both rimfire and appropriately loaded and fitted centerfire rifles and handguns with the family. The advantages of the adjustable stocks and chassis as shown by Todbartell are self evident, otherwise the stock will have to be cut to fit the youngsters, then either lengthened or replaced as they grow. Another habit that needs to disappear is the idea that you give a kid some piece of junk that won't shoot, the old, "AHH its good enough for a kid!". Well if it doesn't shoot for you, what is the kid going to learn from it? In a word, discouragement. Give them a chance, and let them shoot something good.

Lots of kids are allowed to start with semi-auto rimfires. While there are those who will disagree, I don't think this is the best way to teach fundamentals, unless the rifle is treated as a single shot during the initial phase of training. Another reason is that I think there is a significant benefit to the rimfire rifle and the centerfire rifle being similar in the way they work. For example a CZ 452, or one of the later models, combined with a CZ 527, and a CZ 550. Each of these rifles are available with irons sights and are easily scoped, which provides a novice with exposure to both.
 
Started my youngest, (now 13) with a .22lr, then a .22 hornet, and she took her first deer this year with a .260 Rem. Try not to push her along, but let her go at her own pace.
 
I let my kids go at there own pace too. Realized I’ve been a little lax when my 15 year old scoped himself this morning, with a 9 pound .240! Missed a dandy buck doing it. A quick roadside lesson and he’s back on track. Main problem was a puffy vest messing up his form.
 
My daughters both received .243's and shoot them quite well. My vote would be for a .243. If the kid was a little more comfortable with guns, then it's really hard to be a .25-06 - which is capable of cleanly taking moose and elk. Any of the 6.5's are quite reasonable as well.
 
If you were one of those kids that was passed a long stocked, 6 pound 12 ga single-shot, with a plastic butt plate, that was loaded with an ounce and seven-eighths 3" magnum, lets agree not continue that unfortunate tradition. Even better is a forend that separates from the gun in recoil, and an action that drops open each time it fires. Perhaps that's the gun that should be reserved for cocky teenagers, but its probably better just to let the tradition die.


who the heck does that to a kid???

Do you want your kid to grow up to be a DJ, cuz thats how you get a DJ
 
If your goal is to avoid flinch I’d start with a practice .22 to get comfortable shooting...

have to agree with this, a .22 of her own would be the start. A .243 is going to bang her around, and being a girl, she will have plenty of other things to do if she gets not liking the kick.
my granddaughters shot .22 for a few years, and when they were 18 and 14 they both wanted to shoot the .204, never bothered them, they also both shot a little trap with a 12 ga, older one thought it was fine, younger one didn't care for it, but never shied from it either.
Every kid is different, they are both small light girls, but like their daddy, not afraid of too much.
 
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