Cleaning pulled bullets?

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I see pictures in various reloading manual of large lots of bullets in a granular media mixing machine - like a cement mixer - obvious no harm being done to those bullets to "shine them up". I no longer have a vibratory machine or any of that media - have been doing my cases in a rotary tumbler - wet, with stainless steel pins.
I just pulled about 30 older "hand loads" from unknown origin - turned out to have at least 3 different bullets within the same boxes. Some of the bullets showing significant tarnish, maybe even corrosion on the rear end. All the bullets have exposed lead tips.
Can bullets like this be tumbled in a wet tumbler with steel pins, or is the exposed lead on the tips going to disappear? Any other downside?? I would just go ahead and run them through a cycle - thought I would ask here if anyone has tried to do that before?
 
Never done it that way. I have cleaned up similar situations with a bath in hot citric acid, available in the canning section of your local supermarket, just as you would clean tarnished cases. Nice 'n shiny.
 
I recently pulled several thousand rounds of ammunition from an estate. 10 minutes in the SS tumbler without pins had them looking brand new.
 
So, what I discovered. A shot of Dawn dish soap, some powdered Lemi-Shine, then mostly filled rotary barrel with warm water - NO pins - dumped in the pulled bullets - ran for about 10 minutes - all tarnish was gone - nice and shiny - no apparent damage to the exposed lead tips - I think the bullets are Hornady Spire Points 139 gr. and 162 gr. SPBT. A few bullets had started with some green coloured corrosion - was not removed - had gone "dark", but not gone. Added SS pins and the brass that the bullets had been pulled from, and some previously fired brass. Set timer for 2 hours. About half those bullets ended up pointy end first inside the previously fired cases, along with some pins - took some effort of shaking one by one to shake out the pins, around the bullet. For some, the bullet promptly fell out. Others were into the necks, but not falling out - pretty sure there was still a pin or two on the inside that was wedging the bullet in there - used a kinetic / inertial "hammer" style puller to get them out. Lead bullet tips vary from "new" looking to partially mushroomed over - I think the beat-up ones were getting most of their beating within the cases. So, from that episode, I would conclude just the Dawn and Lemi-Shine worked fine to remove tarnish; SS pins definitely clean off any corrosion that might be present, and really BAD idea to put bullets and previously fire brass into the same batch in a wet rotary tumbler!!!

An observation - these hand loads were from unknown source and are of uncertain age - the powder was a log-type powder of some sort. All the boat-tail bullets (162 SPBT) has significant "green" corrosion on the boat tail shoulders that would have been exposed to fumes(?) from the powder. Many, but not all of the Spire Point flat bases had less, but visible "green" on their very rear end - again where it would have been exposed to the fumes (?) from the powder. A slight difference in colour between the powders from the two loads, so possibly a different powder was used for the two bullet weights?? The powder was discarded once pulled and dumped from the cases. As well, all the primers were pushed out - about 1/4 of them showed significant "green" growth / buildup within the primer cup that would have been facing the powder. The primers were dropped into a small vial of motor oil and will be disposed of. There were no notes or markings to indicate what the loads were or when loaded - in same box of cartridges, I pulled out three different weights of bullets - the 175 grain Round Nose was obvious, but not much visual difference between 162 gr. SPBT and 139 SP when seated.

162 grain SPBT as pulled - note the corrosion on the boat tail where they would have been exposed to powder:

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139 grain Spire Point - tarnish, but small amount of green on some bases:

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The primers as removed - sitting on a plastic sheet on work bench - worst for corrosion in the lower left of picture.

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From my experience, using SS media in RCBS sidewinder works great for cleaning dirty bullets (military bullets gets a soak in paint thinner or varsol first until the sealant gets dissolved). I've tried using the same media in a Thumbler and the tips on target bullets would get mushroomed. A rinse in methanol makes sure that they dry quickly and with minimal water staining.
 
Pins would be great for FMJs but pretty sure they would beat up the exposed lead tips pretty good.

That is what I thought - however, after two hours with the SS pins, but also with those cases in there as mentioned, about 1/3 of the bullet's lead tips appear fine - I believe most of the "beat up" ones were beat up when they were inside a case, or perhaps when I was shaking out the pins - all the bullets within cases had gone in pointy end first, so as I was shaking those case, would have likely been driving the tips up against the inside of the case head. If I were to do it again, I would not hesitate to use SS pins to clean off visible corrosion - the lead tips seem to be fine - but if just a tarnish is to be removed, the pins are unnecessary - those bullets cleaned up fine with just the water, Dawn and Lemi-shine in about 10 minutes of "tumbling".
 
Pins would be great for FMJs but pretty sure they would beat up the exposed lead tips pretty good.

Thinking about this - if the SS pins were to erode away the lead tips, most of the FMJ that I have here also have exposed lead on their bases, which would expect to be eroded away as well?? I did not see the tips eroded, so I don't think it would happen on FMJ either - but SS pins does do a much better job removing actual corrosion (green "fuzzy" stuff), compare to the darkened colour of tarnish, which came away quickly without the pins.
 
Pins would be great for FMJs but pretty sure they would beat up the exposed lead tips pretty good.

The picture I shared was of FMJ's with exposed lead bases. The lead remained perfectly intact - but clean. You're not putting these in a sandblaster.

Here are three bullets: a cast 0.427" bullet for the 44-40; and two 8mm bullets with exposed lead tips.

Shown: before; after 30 mins; and after 2 hours. The tips were not hammered to bits as feared/hypothesized, and the cast bullet was nice and clean and measured 0.427", ready for lube and sizing.

I haven't paid the ransom, so you'll need to follow the links:

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Tumbling with pins wont hurt anything.
I remember tumbling a rusty mold block, 1 side at a time. Took about 16 hrs each side but it was usable in the end
 
I have done some with dry walnut media and they became shiny. Put them in in the morning and forgotten them until the evening. They were looking brand new except lead tip that was a bit dark but none were damaged.
 
Thinking about this - if the SS pins were to erode away the lead tips, most of the FMJ that I have here also have exposed lead on their bases, which would expect to be eroded away as well?? I did not see the tips eroded, so I don't think it would happen on FMJ either - but SS pins does do a much better job removing actual corrosion (green "fuzzy" stuff), compare to the darkened colour of tarnish, which came away quickly without the pins.
The key is probably to not get carried away with the SS tumbling. As the bullets have no real cavities to clean like the primer pockets or interiors of brass cases I'm guessing 30 min or less or wet tumbling with pins would be more than adequate without major damage to the tips.
 
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