Made in canada vs made in china

Poor Dominon Arms....just want to restart a Canadian firearm business. Yet so many people send harsh words - through their made-in-China computers.
 
Have you even been to a Chinese factory? They are not full of slaves. I know there are GULAG-like operations that are, but they aren't open to scrutiny by foreign buyers. Canada was once a source for cheap labour, as was the US. It happens to everyone. People are flooding in from the farms to work in these factories because the pay is good by comparison. I certainly don't agree all of what China does, but the same goes for Canada, US, Russia, etc. Quality is based on quality control. Also, in many cases working with Chinese companies is easier. The start up costs with a Canadian co. are huge and cumbersome, not so in China. They are eager for the business and go out of their way to make it happen.
 
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$350.00 keeps workers enslaved in China while $900.00 keeps a Canadian company in the black. We don't need to be concerned with world economics, but perhaps we should think about what our dollars support.

You pay taxes?

Well then you pay into the Aid funds given to the Chinese Government (read Army) by our Government...feel the love. :D

Also unless you live live in a cave, and wear ceder bark clothing then most of what you buy has been made in China, or at the least was shipped in a container owned by China, and through a port owned by China.

Furthermore what are the affordable alternatives you suggest?
Give me a list of the Canadian companies that make sporting arms for sale in Canada...
 
$350.00 keeps workers enslaved in China while $900.00 keeps a Canadian company in the black. We don't need to be concerned with world economics, but perhaps we should think about what our dollars support.

Who says we don't have to be concerned with world economics? If not we should be concerned with our economics! Land of the free or the home of the brave or true north strong and free....why should anyone pay three times as much just to make sure a Canadian company stays in the black.....Do you think that they are really concerned with us staying in the black? Seems like a gouge to me!

If this is a free country, I am free to buy whatever I want from wherever I want even if it is from those so called freedom hating commies!
 
Today's China is everything but communist, period.


You may be right! Where I think they pose a threat to ;) our way of life ;) is by the vast size of the country and sheer numbers of inhabitants who need to be fed. In the past they seemed to struggle to feed their population, then some where along the way the light came on. They traded for what they had in abundance, and that was an unending supply of cheap labor and they sold their services to the fat cats of the world who were too well fed to work. Why struggle for food and fuel when their labor can buy the best of both? Now they threaten the 6% of the worlds population that consume and own 50% of the worlds wealth. With their growning wealth they will compete directly with the well fed in the land of the free for the choice cuts and the fuel to increase their wealth, and along the way they will need land and room to grow and oil. There will be the inevitable clash between fat cats but that is what it will be, a Cat Fight! In the end, the consumer will just be a pawn!

For today eat drink and be merry and shoot whatever you want be it Remington or Norinco, for tomorrow there is enough powder to do it again!:50cal::50cal::50cal:

Actually the threat I think they pose is that they are becomming more like us eh!
 
I stay away from any Chinese firearms other than cheap throw away SKS's...

I bought my 8.5" from Dlask because he is a Canadian company pushing the envelope for firearms owners like everyone else on this board that lives here in Canada.
 
You pay taxes?

Well then you pay into the Aid funds given to the Chinese Government (read Army) by our Government...feel the love. :D

Also unless you live live in a cave, and wear ceder bark clothing then most of what you buy has been made in China, or at the least was shipped in a container owned by China, and through a port owned by China.

Furthermore what are the affordable alternatives you suggest?
Give me a list of the Canadian companies that make sporting arms for sale in Canada...

How many Canadians are employed by Chinese companies? How many Canadians will be employed by Canadian companies if everyone buys Chinese products? When I go to the store I shop by label - Canadian !st, North American 2nd, European 3rd, Asian last.

Can the Chinese worker afford to buy the product he makes in the Norinco Factory? Strange, in North America factories workers can afford to purchase the products they make. Before we embrace Chinese products we should maybe consider that. I would rather own 1 or 2 Canadian made guns than two dozen Chinese guns.

On the plus side, many who buy Chinese guns support Canadian gunsmiths who bring those guns up to contemporary standards of function, reliability and accuracy.
 
$500 saving is a false economy, i can't afford $500 any more then you can, when your Norinco breaks down or falls apart due to shoddy workmanship, where is the economy in that? i know, I know what about the pride of ownership in a Norinco? 'nuff said!!

The new Chinese shotguns ARE NOT made by Norinco (see the CanAmmo thread).

At this point we DO NOT KNOW what the relative quality will be compared to Norinco or Remington shotguns IMHO.
 
Can the Chinese worker afford to buy the product he makes in the Norinco Factory? Strange, in North America factories workers can afford to purchase the products they make. Before we embrace Chinese products we should maybe consider that. I would rather own 1 or 2 Canadian made guns than two dozen Chinese guns.

On the plus side, many who buy Chinese guns support Canadian gunsmiths who bring those guns up to contemporary standards of function, reliability and accuracy.

North America factories workers- you mean Mexican? :runaway::D

Let me tell you one thing: factory sucks! I am still looking for a single Canadian young man willing to work in a factory!
 
North America factories workers- you mean Mexican? :runaway::D

Let me tell you one thing: factory sucks! I am still looking for a single Canadian young man willing to work in a factory!

Yes, when I purchase explosives now it seems that much of it made in Mexico. You can add to that Honduras, Guatemala, and Costa Rica. Seems that El-Salvador doesn't export much to Canada.
 
Yes, when I purchase explosives now it seems that much of it made in Mexico. You can add to that Honduras, Guatemala, and Costa Rica. Seems that El-Salvador doesn't export much to Canada.
Likely because no one in Canada US wants to work in an X factory, The US no longer even makes TNT. It is all imported from China, Romania, Ukraine, etc or recycled out of old ordnance.
 
Boomer: Who makes the Canadian shotgun,you suggest we buy? AS for other Canadian firearms companies that I know of : DAC ( COLT CANADA) makes only for our military and export, PARA-ORDNANCE only sells to a U.S. distributor who exports Canadian guns back to Canada ,making the Canadian gun more expensive than in the U.S., LAKEFIELD-MOSSBERG used to make shotguns in Canada, now I believe they only make .22's here, and there is a custom gun maker who makes the sniper rifles for our Canadian snipers( sorry but I can't recall the companies name). And Dlask's 8.5 barreled shotguns are sold as REMINGTONS for $848 ready to ship. Which kind of makes it hard to buy Canadian. Now maybe you mean BUY AMERICAN .
 
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Likely because no one in Canada US wants to work in an X factory, The US no longer even makes TNT. It is all imported from China, Romania, Ukraine, etc or recycled out of old ordnance.

CanAm: Things are worse than that. The great US Army found they can't find enough ammo in US. They are ordering Billions rounds of 5.56 from Taiwan......Asian manufacturers, eh?....I don't feel bad anymore....:evil:
 
Before we embrace Chinese products we should maybe consider that. I would rather own 1 or 2 Canadian made guns than two dozen Chinese guns.

Once again I'd love to see a list you have for who makes affordable shotguns or any other type of firearm in Canada, and I'm not talking about old rusted out single shot cooey shotguns, but new shotguns. :rolleyes:

So if a real Canadian company could make good quality 870 clone with a 14" barrel at the same retail cost as the Norinco HP9 then I would have bought it, but it doesn't exist so there yah have it, supply and demand.

Besides which the critters I will hunt with it won't care where it is made.
 
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