Using PPU or Sellier and Bellot ammo hunting?

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Has anyone here used either PPU or S&B hunting ammo?

The American manufacturers make their 7x57 ammo so anemic I am looking for a European brand to use in my Husqvarna.
 
I've used the S&B SPCE (Soft point cutting edge) in 8x57 on game....never again. The bullet grenaded and I found bits of the jacket far from the point of impact. I've read some decent reviews about ppu bullets on game, no personal experience yet.
 
I used the S&B in the 7X57 and found it accurate MD.
Never shot a game animal with it though and then sold the gun...
Silly move on my part, but such as it is there is always another gun/ammo combo to sort out.
Now have a Browning X-Bolt in 6.5 CM and bought four boxes of S&B 131gr sp ammo recently for what I hope to be accurate ammo, inexpensive and brass for reloading..eventually.
https://www.sellierbellot.us/products/rifle-ammunition/rifle-ammunition-sp/detail/564/
They used to have a 140 grn bullet with the stepped shoulder on the bullet for cutting fur, but I see they do not offer that bullet in the 140 grn.
Leaves a hole through the fur to prevent it from pulling inside the wound to help creates a blood trail and also leave some fur behind to assist in tracking.
Rob
 
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Have shot a couple WT deer with S&B 150gr .303 Brit, shoots well in my No.4. None of them made it any farther then 30-40 yrds, all full pass through shots with a good blood trail to follow. Lungs were pulped.
 
I've used lots of PPU and S&B ammo, mostly in more uncommon cartridges to harvest the brass. But we shot many deer with S&B 7X64 173 Grain with the Torpedo style SP bullets... very accurate and do a great job on deer. They make 7X57 with the same bullet... I would have alot of confidence in that load.
 
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I’ve used S&B 180 grain soft points in 7.62x54R to hunt deer. Killed three deer with that load and had no complaints. No slugs recovered and carcass autopsies displayed excellent expansion.
 
I've shot a couple of whitetails and a big wolf with the 7x57 S&B SPCE 173 gr. The bullet does well on game because of the weight and sectional density, not the construction. It has a thin steel jacket that is plated with gilding metal. The steel jacket fragments rather than peeling back in a classic mushroom. But enough remains of the rear shank at 7x57 velocity to drive deep. I have found them very accurate in several different rifles. I'd use them with confidence on deer size animals. But would choose shots carefully to avoid hitting the heavy humerus / scapula joint if shooting moose / elk size critters.
 
I've shot a couple of whitetails and a big wolf with the 7x57 S&B SPCE 173 gr. The bullet does well on game because of the weight and sectional density, not the construction. It has a thin steel jacket that is plated with gilding metal. The steel jacket fragments rather than peeling back in a classic mushroom. But enough remains of the rear shank at 7x57 velocity to drive deep. I have found them very accurate in several different rifles. I'd use them with confidence on deer size animals. But would choose shots carefully to avoid hitting the heavy humerus / scapula joint if shooting moose / elk size critters.

The 173 grain SPCE bullet held together very well on the deer we shot with a pair of 7X64's... and it was very accurate. Never used it in 7X57, but I would not expect a huge difference in terminal performance. S&B also load this bullet in 7mm Rem Mag... so they have confidence in it over a wide range of velocities.
 
I've used lots of PPU and S&B ammo, mostly in more uncommon cartridges to harvest the brass. But we shot many deer with S&B 7X64 173 Grain with the Torpedo style SP bullets... very accurate and do a great job on deer. They make 7X57 with the same bullet... I would have alot of confidence in that load.

Can't recall where or why I got them, but that brand name ;) jolted the 'gray' cells. Went and checked and seems I have two boxes, but what I have are 140gr FMJ. Oh well, it'll give me something, to scare the spiders out of the barrel with :) the next trip to the range .
 
Use both the S&B and Prvi in 7x57, and Prvi in 7.62x39.
Reliable and accurate, as always. Both are relatively hot too. The brass is also very good for reloading.
 
We bought some PPU hunting loads for our 300 WM'S. Very effective on this years moose , my young lad was using them.

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Has anyone here used either PPU or S&B hunting ammo?

The American manufacturers make their 7x57 ammo so anemic I am looking for a European brand to use in my Husqvarna.

I have been loading 150 Partitions to 2,800 fps with RL-19 for 20 odd years in my 22" barrel Ruger No.1 in 7x57 - not "anemic". If you have a 4000 / 4100 Husqvarna it has unusually slow rate of twist - 1 in 12? Just setting up my own 4100 with a Hensoldt 26 mm 4 power scope, so will be load testing for it shortly (this winter?) - I bought 140, 150 and 160 Partitions to specifically to try in that 4100 as my first choices. Because of shorter barrel, hoping for 2,800-ish from the 140 Partitions - kinda hoping that twist will stabilize them. I do not expect it to stabilize the 150's, but I am going to try anyways. The 160's are kind of a "hail mary" - shouldn't work, but gotta try to know!!!
 
I have been loading 150 Partitions to 2,800 fps with RL-19 for 20 odd years in my 22" barrel Ruger No.1 in 7x57 - not "anemic". If you have a 4000 / 4100 Husqvarna it has unusually slow rate of twist - 1 in 12? Just setting up my own 4100 with a Hensoldt 26 mm 4 power scope, so will be load testing for it shortly (this winter?) - I bought 140, 150 and 160 Partitions to specifically to try in that 4100 as my first choices. Because of shorter barrel, hoping for 2,800-ish from the 140 Partitions - kinda hoping that twist will stabilize them. I do not expect it to stabilize the 150's, but I am going to try anyways. The 160's are kind of a "hail mary" - shouldn't work, but gotta try to know!!!

Thank you for the post. Yes indeed, mine is a 4100 too.

I was going to try loading some 175 grain bullets I've got or it, just because I have them.

Don't exactly what they are except that they are 175 grain round nose bullets. Buddy got 'em at a gun show then passed them on to me.

So far I do know that 139 grain Hornady Interlocks in front of H4350 are good. But I've got an armful of rifles all shooting 130--150 grain bullets, so I wanted to try something heavier.
 
can say ive used factory in 222, 308 and 303 PPU and 303 sellor bellot, no complaints at all..good brass too i found in the SB stuff?
 
Thank you for the post. Yes indeed, mine is a 4100 too.

I was going to try loading some 175 grain bullets I've got or it, just because I have them.

Don't exactly what they are except that they are 175 grain round nose bullets. Buddy got 'em at a gun show then passed them on to me.

So far I do know that 139 grain Hornady Interlocks in front of H4350 are good. But I've got an armful of rifles all shooting 130--150 grain bullets, so I wanted to try something heavier.


Everything I have read says the twist rate is related to bullet length, not to bullet weight. Picture below is Hornady 139 SPBT, Hornady 175 RN, and Nosler 150 Partition - all in 7mm (.284"). Note that the 150 grain is longest. If your rifle is stabilizing 139 SPBT already, well worth to test out that theory and try those 175 Round Nose - virtually identical length!!

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We've used S&B 6.5x55 140 soft points for a few years now. Accurate and taken mule deer and whitetails, moose and elk. Always performed good. Rifles are a heavy barrelled husqvarna (sp) and blaser R8 and K95. Same performance at -40 or +10.
 
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