Billet AR180B lower range report.

Canuck223 said:
As we rarely have a revolutionary concept in firearms, isn't the smart move to take the best elements from proven designs and find a way to optimize there potential?
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Oh I'm not slagging their rifle by any means. I'm just saying it's not really anything revolutionary and new like some would make us all think.
 
it doesn't work so I don't have to register it. ;)

Which reminds me, I should stamp some numbers on it or something. I think I'll try to register it on Friday.
 
Armedsask said:
Honestly, I thought the Masada was all that and a bag of chips. the more I look at it, the more I realise there is really nothing revolutionary about it. They just took all the great features of current firearms, threw in a few nifty gimmicks and produced a great looking rifle.

As for quick change barrels, honestly, do you really need quick change barrels? User changeable sure, but quick change? After some thought I really don't see it as that high of a priority. The upper I'm thinking of making would be CNC milled from aluminum billet and take standard AR15 barrels with the standard AR15 barrel nut. That way you can use all the AR15 forends on the market. Of course that's just my idea, I'm not sure if it will work though with the AR18 internals and so on.
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Yeah - wrote my post a little hasty - user changeable barrels would be just fine. Now that you have made the lower I have an even better idea: Make a machined lower that creates a bullpup design:eek: Could this be done and pass as non-restricted since it's a receiver??? Woa momma that would be cool! You could rest your cheek on the upper receiver and put your red dot on the forward rail of the handguard. All you need is a long linkage for the trigger that goes around the mag welll and cover up the trigger as it is now designed....:evil: Am I off base?
 
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Nice job. I'm impressed to see you follow through with this project. I know that it has taken you a while to complete and you can justifiably take pride in it.
 
spi said:
Nice job. I'm impressed to see you follow through with this project. I know that it has taken you a while to complete and you can justifiably take pride in it.
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It was nice to finally stick it too all the naysayers. Honestly though, I'm not happy with the outcome. The finished product isn't something I want to use. I know it is damn good for a first gun but my limited machining experience (at the time it was made) is very evident. Good for a first try but it will be relegated to the scrap pile. I'm probably going to just have the receiver framed or mounted to hang on my wall. Will be a collectors item some day. Can you imagine what Eugene Stoner's very first gun would be worth?

I'll have access to a shop to tinker in next year so expect more of the numerous projects I've had planned to finally see some work. I'm in some serious depression from my lack of tinkering space this past year. :D
 
Armedsask said:
I'll have access to a shop to tinker in next year so expect more of the numerous projects I've had planned to finally see some work. I'm in some serious depression from my lack of tinkering space this past year. :D
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im going on 2 years no tinker space :(

used to have shop space, tons of tools. a mill, lathe was next... welder bandsaws etc.... now i live in a condo :(


welder on the balcony though :) cant take the redneck out of me.
 
" Will be a collectors item some day. Can you imagine what Eugene Stoner's very first gun would be worth?"

Except you wont be able to sell that one!
 
Clobbersauras said:
Yeah - wrote my post a little hasty - user changeable barrels would be just fine. Now that you have made the lower I have an even better idea: Make a machined lower that creates a bullpup design:eek: Could this be done and pass as non-restricted since it's a receiver??? Woa momma that would be cool! You could rest your cheek on the upper receiver and put your red dot on the forward rail of the handguard. All you need is a long linkage for the trigger that goes around the mag welll and cover up the trigger as it is now designed....:evil: Am I off base?
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I am playing with mill and lathe right now and scratch-built bullpup is something on my mind. Will be totally legal if made right. Haven't settled on a caliber yet. 6.5 with 55 casing maybe?
 
"Sure I can, it's a paper weight."

I am a bit confused how you can build a reciever and then sell it?(with out a manufacturing liscence) A paper weight is not capable of discharging ammo, your finely crafted bit of canadiana is, or soon will be, a registered home built reciever.
I am regularily wrong so feel free to enlighten. (preferabley in the oh so polite, non condescending manner which you are becoming accustomed.)
 
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Clobbersauras said:
Now that you have made the lower I have an even better idea: Make a machined lower that creates a bullpup design:eek: Am I off base?
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Hey, sorry I missed this post earlier. I'm way ahead of you on the bullpup lower. Been tinkering with a design off and on for a year now. It would be non-restricted as long as the rifle can't discharge ammunition with out the part that makes it bullpup.

I've actually been working a design that uses the same basic "upper receiver" section to create either a standard configuration, a bullpup. Each version can be had as semi-auto or a pump action. You can't flip back and forth from the user end but the three configurations share many common parts and only the final stages of machining make them different. This would cut down on manufacturing costs as they all start off the same.

Why a pump action? Because then you can have a pump action bullpup with 30 round mags. As you built the pump action version first, all the other rifles get to use the 30 round mags. And then I'm rich.
 
Armedsask said:
I'm probably going to just have the receiver framed or mounted to hang on my wall. Will be a collectors item some day. Can you imagine what Eugene Stoner's very first gun would be worth?
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I think the progress you've made is fantastic, and I think this is likely loaded with sarcasm, but the above is giving an awful lot of credit for simply making an aluminum reciever for a pre-existing gun. ;) So far, it's a neat garage project, but a long way from anything revolutionary. I do wish you luck in your ventures, but can't help but cough up my drink at the tone of a few of the posts here. Prove me wrong I say, we need more homegrown manufacturers.
 
Ardent said:
I think the progress you've made is fantastic, and I think this is likely loaded with sarcasm, but the above is giving an awful lot of credit for simply making an aluminum reciever for a pre-existing gun. ;) So far, it's a neat garage project, but a long way from anything revolutionary. I do wish you luck in your ventures, but can't help but cough up my drink at the tone of a few of the posts here. Prove me wrong I say, we need more homegrown manufacturers.
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No one said it was revolutionary or that the receiver is the reason it will be worth money. It will simply be worth money because it was the first one I made.

I'll get back to you in a couple years and you will be proven wrong. That I promise.
 
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