Sulun Arms SS-211 at Tactical Imports!

Can't speak on this brand/model but my 14" barrel O/U is my fav fun gun. Pay for this over a norinco or other shorty double
 
Sadly, the rule isn't so cut and dry. How the rcmp decide to classify it matters too - for example the Mares Leg is usually NR, however there exists a Mares leg with a barrel that is a few inches shorter than most and that one is restricted. Because Reasons.

I have also seen a screenshot on here a few years ago of the registration certificate for a pump action shotgun with a really short barrel that was registered as a handgun.



Considering the price, I wouldn't expect a lot. For that money the only expectations I would have is that it goes bang when I pull the trigger and doesn't fall apart after a box of shells. That said I have a Turkish single shot and semi and both have served me well.

The exceptions are if it is deemed to be a handgun. So if you have a non-functioning stock or pistol grip only the RCMP will consider the gun designed or intended to be aimed and fired with one hand and therefore a handgun and restricted
 
The exceptions are if it is deemed to be a handgun. So if you have a non-functioning stock or pistol grip only the RCMP will consider the gun designed or intended to be aimed and fired with one hand and therefore a handgun and restricted

Except that doesn't make sense in light of the Mares Leg. The only difference is barrel length, both are under 26", one is NR the other R. The stock/grip is identical, so how can that be the deciding factor?

Clearly one is deemed a handgun, while one isn't, but it can't be due to the stock because they're the same?

My point is there is no hard rules for sub-26" guns and the rcmp makes their decisions on a case by case basis. Nice of you guys to bring these in though, they'd make a freaking awesome truck gun.
 
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Except that doesn't make sense in light of the Mares Leg. The only difference is barrel length, both are under 26", one is NR the other R. The stock/grip is identical, so how can that be the deciding factor?

Clearly one is deemed a handgun, while one isn't, but it can't be due to the stock because they're the same?

My point is there is no hard rules for sub-26" guns and the rcmp makes their decisions on a case by case basis. Nice of you guys to bring these in though, they'd make a freaking awesome truck gun.

The restricted ones are pistol marked models generally made for US sale, but a pistol a pistol and can never not be a pistol by Canadian laws.
 
Is the NR Mares the 22lr? Because that would make a difference. Restricted usually means center-fire based of the checklist they have, so the shorter version in rimfire would have been deemed NR.

"Once a pistol, always a pistol" - RCMP

I'm sure if you called them with both NR & R FRT numbers they could in theory give a detailed summary of why they are classified as such. Unless it's in the FRT table on armalytics in the notes. But it's really a game of making sense of something that they don't have to make sense of.
 
Is the NR Mares the 22lr? Because that would make a difference. Restricted usually means center-fire based of the checklist they have, so the shorter version in rimfire would have been deemed NR.

"Once a pistol, always a pistol" - RCMP

I'm sure if you called them with both NR & R FRT numbers they could in theory give a detailed summary of why they are classified as such. Unless it's in the FRT table on armalytics in the notes. But it's really a game of making sense of something that they don't have to make sense of.

Nope there's a bunch of center fire on there.

They're all NR aside from the ones with Pistol marked on the frame. With the odd one out being pistol marked on the barrel also being NR.

So to further analyze a firearm can be a pistol if its marked pistol on the receiver.
 
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That still US law, has to do with barrel length. They want it to be US pistol class for sub 16" barrels (18" for shotgun) or its an NFA item there.

I am aware of WHY they're marketed as pistols in the US. But the fact remains that ALL Mares Legs are sold as pistols in the USA, so the fact that the 9" ones are pistols in the USA thus pistols in Canada does not make sense because that reasoning should also apply to the 12" ones.

Long story short: The RCMP does whatever they want, and if you try to apply logic to it you'll just go in circles.
 
Both the 9" and 12" versions are pistols in the USA, so I can't see how that is the deciding factor.

12+" barrels, from Henry, clearly listed as pistols: https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/mares-leg/

If it is marketed as a pistol by manufacturer, then RCMP will in most cases consider it designed and intended to be a handgun (ie aimed and fired with one hand). Also, can anyone actually use the stock on a mare's leg? It's like 4"
 
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