Bushnell 4x only

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Are bushnell or any brand 4x only scopes not in vogue any more. I remember many a hunting rifle sporting a single power scope, don’t see that anymore.
 
I have a Leupold M8 4x on my 7x57 ( 2 of them actually, on qd mounts and sighted for different loads) but fixed power scopes are largely passé. With improvements to variables, fixed power have lost a lot of their advantage.


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I prefer fixed, for hunting/stalking. One less thing to fumble with when the time comes, and it always comes when you're not ready.
 
Quite a few folks use their variable power scopes for glassing when hunting , so it kind of put the fixed power scopes at a disadvantage if you wanted to look out a little further afield . I still see lots of fixed powered scopes on 22 rimfires .
 
Quite a few folks use their variable power scopes for glassing when hunting , so it kind of put the fixed power scopes at a disadvantage if you wanted to look out a little further afield . I still see lots of fixed powered scopes on 22 rimfires .

And all of those cheap, lazy and stupid human beings need their heads stomped on for being ignorant fools.

Pointing your gun around to find stuff is beyond stupid. Get a set of binoculars or duct tape some toilet paper rolls together. I dont care, but stop "gassing" with your damn rifles.

Yeah, it's personal.
 
Keep your eyes on the EE and find an older scope you like.
Purchase it and send it in to Trace Scope Repair.
Get it tuned up and shaaazammm..........old scope in usable conditon.

Save some freight by getting the seller to send it to Trace.
Let Phil know what this plan of action is.

Voila
 
Whatever happened to "don't point your gun at anything you don't want to shoot"? Glassing with a mounted scope is dangerous. I remember (years ago) this was specifically covered in my hunter safety course. Maybe it's no longer covered, but it should be.
 
I have a Leupold M8 4x on my 7x57 ( 2 of them actually, on qd mounts and sighted for different loads) but fixed power scopes are largely passé. With improvements to variables, fixed power have lost a lot of their advantage.


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Passe or not , that rifle just looks right , very nice . I have a H&R 340 in 06 with the same set up , very useful .
 
As to your question...Bushnell scopes are not as popular these days as compared to twenty years ago when in Canada and parts of the USA they were considered a major brand. Since then several scope companies have caught up and surpassed in sales and more importantly marketing. I still like several models both old and new but unfortunately are not often asked for by consumers even though I think they are very competitive in performance and cost. As to 4 power not being as available that is correct. We carry only a couple of 4 power scopes, some for rimfire and some for centerfire. As variable power scopes have been getting better in holding zero there is seldom a performance difference and due to volume production, variable power is often the same or less price than a comparable fixed power. Phil.
 
These have become more popular in the tactical community in my observations. For example, the U.S. Army uses the 4x Trijicon ACOG (well, used, they just officially switched to a low-power variable optic (LPVO) called the VCOG) as their standard medium-range optic. But these are no longer traditional scopes - they are now fixed-power illuminated prism sights. While these are generally heavier than traditional scopes, some fixed power variants of the ACOG (e.g. the TA-33 which is at 3x) is very light.

There are plenty of these kinds of scopes on the market. Some examples:

Trijicon ACOG family
Burris AR Prism sights
Vortex Spitfire prism scopes (3x and 5x)
Primary Arms (GLx 2x, SLx 3x and 5x)
Lucid Optics
Atibal MROC 3x32 (I'd love to try this but we can't seem to get them here...)

Also, the Russians seem to continue producing traditional fixed power scopes - check out BELOMO for example (which I think is technically Belarussian).

I have also just come across the new Spitfire gen 2 prism scopes by Vortex (in 3x and 5x I think) which I am for sure going to pick up. They're super light compared to the first gen and seem to be a potential budget alternative to optics like the ACOG (of course, nowhere near the glass quality and toughness for sure) but you get what you pay for.
 
I am a fan of the 70's Japan Tasco scopes myself, cheap and decent scopes. I'm still using many old Tasco to this day and the ones I have are great. I have a few older bushnell as well that I wouldn't change out.
 
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I love a good 4x scope. Have a 50's vintage Scopechief 4x, Weaver Classic Japan 4x, IOR 4x, Zeiss Diatal C4x and a Leupold M8..
Like every one of them, prefer to a variable.
 
As to your question...Bushnell scopes are not as popular these days as compared to twenty years ago when in Canada and parts of the USA they were considered a major brand. Since then several scope companies have caught up and surpassed in sales and more importantly marketing. I still like several models both old and new but unfortunately are not often asked for by consumers even though I think they are very competitive in performance and cost. As to 4 power not being as available that is correct. We carry only a couple of 4 power scopes, some for rimfire and some for centerfire. As variable power scopes have been getting better in holding zero there is seldom a performance difference and due to volume production, variable power is often the same or less price than a comparable fixed power. Phil.

This. Most people see zero reason in buying a fixed power scope when the equivalent brand/model 3-9x is cheaper. Once upon a time, having a variable power scope had obvious trade offs with glass clarity, ruggedness, and cost. Nowadays not so much. Other than weight, there isn't a lot of good reasons to buy a fixed power over a variable these days.

Guys like to talk about how a fixed power is more simple and one less thing to worry about, but thats easily remedied by carrying your rifle at its minimum magnification and dialing up only when you need to. Its not like magnification adjustments are so easy they get bumped while walking through the bush (at least none of my scopes are easy enough to change magnification that I'd be worried about it accidentally happening on me)
 
Variables have improved, that's true Suther. But there's still allot to be said for fixed glass. I find fixed scopes to have a better eyebox and to be a more compact (OAL). Besides that, you often have a shift in eye relief with variables. My Leupold 3.5-10x VX3 is downright annoying, to the point I removed it from the Win 70 it was on.
 
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