You think there harder to KILL ?? any good shot with that bullet into the vitals KILL's the same ! RJ
Federal Fusion bullets?
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You think there harder to KILL ?? any good shot with that bullet into the vitals KILL's the same ! RJ
this ! Rj
- Location
- Saskatoon Saskatchewan
I'm going to try them this year in my 338rcm. I like that you can buy them as a component now since I only hunt with handloads. I got the 200gr going over 2800 fps so it should be a good moose load. Federal calls the fusion a deer bullet but if it holds together well it will be an everything bullet.
The winchester power point is actually a tougher bullet in my experience, although my experience with Fusions is only 30cal. They are reliable and they work well on game within velocity limitation. In 30-06 the heavier bullet at lower velocity penetrates respectably but it wouldn't be optimal in a 300 win mag for a 50 yd deer.
- Location
- WMU247 near Edmonton
I would be interested to hear how they do in 338. I found a box of factory 225grn in my ammo stash and was wondering if they would be good for hunting or if they were range practice ammo.
I've only used them on deer and bear. I tend to stick to my 45-70 with hard cast for moose. Although I wouldn't hesitate one minute to use the Fusion bullets for moose if I had to.
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So I bought my bullets and now I have a related question: With the bullets I also ordered a box of Lapua brass. Should I be resizing the brass, or is it good to go out of the box? I've never bought new brass, always used once fired.
New Lapua? For the ones I purchased new I neck sized them. Others may not.
I am interested in seeing the results OP. I shoot the same caliber and weight and never really gave any consideration to this bullet but Todd's photo got my attention pretty quick.
Have fun developing and hunting with that combo!
Regards
Ronr
- Location
- Vancouver island, bc
They would work very well. There cheap, and hit hard. Another good bullet for the price, for handloading, would be the speer 145, or the 130 gr. 150 eldx, or sierra 140sbt. Whatever is most accurate, and cheap.
- Location
- Vancouver island, bc
For a 7mm08, you can't go wrong with a 140-150 grain bullet for anything from deer to moose. I'd choose a soft point type bullets rather then the premium made expensive bullets.
Cant say I understand why you wouldnt pay the extra little bit for premium bullets. But to each their own.
I do have some 150gr ELD-X on the shelf that came as part of a package deal off the EE when I bought some 1F brass. I have a feeling I won't be able to get the kind of velocity I would like and still fit them in the magazine though, due to their length. Single loading them for longer range target practice is a possible option if thats the case, or I might just sell or trade them. Time will tell.
This is exactly why I was interested in the Fusion - bonded construction at cup and core prices. The fact these bullets are a bit shorter than a lot of the other options I was looking at (say, the 140gr accubond) is nice too because I have magazine limitations to deal with.
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I guess that depends on what you consider moderate velocity - Nosler lists two loads that produce over 2900fps with a 140gr bullet, and theres a thread on here about getting 3300fps out of 120gr bullets (and that thread includes talk of getting over 3100fps w/ IMR4064 and 140gr bullet). I've got 3lbs of RL-17 sitting here with the hope that I can get close to 3000fps, I've already gotten 2850fps from a monometal without any pressure signs so 3000fps with a lead core bullet is at least in the realm of possibility... And if I can only get to 2850-2900fps, that'll work too.
(https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...m-08-Remington-Magnum?highlight=7mm-08+magnum)
That is something I have considered though, I don't want too stout of a bullet. However people in this thread have used everything from 180gr 3006 at 250yds (~2250-2300fps) to 270WSM at 70yds (~2900fps) with good results, so these bullets seem to be suitable for a wide range of impact velocities.
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Yes some of those stories were from me, and I agree the fusion seems like a great bullet for the price and for general use. My statement was more in response to the feller above you that said he doesn’t understand why you wouldn’t use “premium” bullets over standard cup and core. I do consider the 7-08 moderate, and think of the 270 win magnums and 7-08 rem mags (over pressure) to be outliers. I pick a premium bonded bullet/mono every time for my magnum chamberings, but would have zero issues with a cup and core in a 7-08/308/7x57/6.5x55 etc. I’m far from any type of expert and that’s just my opinion.
Fair enough. I like a premium bullet if muzzle velocity is going to be high enough - say, 2800+ fps. Shots can be very close in the coastal mountains, so I want something that'll hold together decently even at very close range. Plus, bonded bullets tend to leave less lead in the meat, and with 3 little ones running around the house thats a property I like too. Weight retention on the fusion seems to be around 80% which seems like a good middle point between explosiveness vs stoutness.
