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One of my relatives recently discovered a rifle in an old trunk when doing some cleaning. It's a single shot, break action, and it had a box of .44-40 cartridges with it that seem to fit it. It is in good condition, has an octagonal barrel, but it's difficult to make out the markings on the barrel. There doesn't seem to be any words or numbers on it, just symbols. I'll take some pics the next time I go for a visit and try to get a better look at it. Apparently it has been in the family since the late 1800's. Any ideas?
 
No forestock, and the stock was fairly small, similar in size to a modern youth rifle. I've been googling and haven't seen anything close to it yet. It also has a rifled barrel.
 
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Kinda like this?
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I'm thinking maybe a Maynard carbine because of the lack of a fore end but don't have a pic to post. The but stock is smaller and has less drop so it would fit the deciscription that sniperland gave. If somebody had a pic they could post it would help.
P.S. Killer Kanuck great pics of the stevens on your post thats not an easy pic to find.
 
doubleman said:
I'm thinking maybe a Maynard carbine because of the lack of a fore end but don't have a pic to post. The but stock is smaller and has less drop so it would fit the deciscription that sniperland gave. If somebody had a pic they could post it would help.
P.S. Killer Kanuck great pics of the stevens on your post thats not an easy pic to find.
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It looks more like a Maynard carbine than a Steven's, but it has a fixed trigger guard. It also has a breech release on the right side. I'll try to have pics soon.
 
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I think the mystery is close to being solved! It looks a lot like this:




Not sure who manufactured it and when, but at least I've got it narrowed down. Anyone have any info or experience with rook rifles?
 
That is either made in Britain or in Belgium and you would have to look at the proof marks to tell the difference. Belgium has the letters ELG* in an oval cartouche and will probably be on the bottom of the barrel at the breach. The british proofs look like a crown over a cross and probably in the same area. In 44-40 smoothbore, I think you said, it would have been used for shooting vermin in the garden. There were a lot of guns made like that in a little short .38 cal shell for hunting rooks. I am a bit puzzled because it has rifle sights on it and I think you said it was a smoothbore; perhaps it was bored out or for shooting roundball like a Marbles Gamegetter.

cheers mooncoon
 
mooncoon said:
That is either made in Britain or in Belgium and you would have to look at the proof marks to tell the difference. Belgium has the letters ELG* in an oval cartouche and will probably be on the bottom of the barrel at the breach. The british proofs look like a crown over a cross and probably in the same area. In 44-40 smoothbore, I think you said, it would have been used for shooting vermin in the garden. There were a lot of guns made like that in a little short .38 cal shell for hunting rooks. I am a bit puzzled because it has rifle sights on it and I think you said it was a smoothbore; perhaps it was bored out or for shooting roundball like a Marbles Gamegetter.

cheers mooncoon
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It has a rifled barrel, not a smoothbore, which makes sense since it has sights.
 
I'm going to say that its a rook rifle bored out to accept a more readily available cartridge.I'm am no-where near being an expert. Also it could be a "no-name" rifle that was stamped with a department store or similar vendors mark.
 
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