45-70 Plinking Bullet?

Everyone in Canada seems to be out of stock on the Starline 45-70 brass. I'll probably have to bite the bullet on some Winchester or Hornady at $1.50 a pop.

Wow, I did some searching too.... we are definitely at key in a brass famine.
These guys, customreloadingservice.com/products/ , they’ve had good stock and prices on Starline 45-70 and I don’t think they are all that well known. Let me know if they could hook you up!
 
I havent measured myself but in doing some research into reloading 45/70 i found that the leverevolution brass is shorter than others. Just in case you come across some or look to reload some of your own once fired brass.
 
I havent measured myself but in doing some research into reloading 45/70 i found that the leverevolution brass is shorter than others. Just in case you come across some or look to reload some of your own once fired brass.

Hornady Leverevolution 45-70 brass is shorter than regular 45-70 brass, I reload for single shot BPCR rifles so I avoid the hornady stuff.

Retreever
 
Most of my brass comes from starting off with commercial ammo and hanging onto the spent brass from round one. "Eventually you'll want to reload" was told to me by a wise older shooter when I was new at it.
 
I am looking at it like this aswell ^^. $55/$100 a box has me considering buying factory and saving brass (GIVEN) and slowly working into reloading. Brass being Min $65 pre-tax for 50pc and the components needed to reload. Things are adding up but slowly will get there to molding and creating my own personal loads.
 
If you want a VERY light bullet and almost ZERO recoil I've used 50 cal muzzle loading balls, pushed through a .458 LEE Lube-sizer. The balls are generally purchased at about .490 diameter and can be lightly lubed, then pushed through the Lubrisizer. The ball now has a very short parallel section. This is then seated over a VERY small charge of shotgun powder. Easy to make and perform well out to 25 yards.
 
I am looking at it like this aswell ^^. $55/$100 a box has me considering buying factory and saving brass (GIVEN) and slowly working into reloading. Brass being Min $65 pre-tax for 50pc and the components needed to reload. Things are adding up but slowly will get there to molding and creating my own personal loads.

Even at that $65 for 50 brass price it will still be more economical to use them than factory loads in my area. Factory rounds here run $3-$3.20 each. i can reload commercial hard cast slug rounds for about $.85 re-using brass so if I add in new brass at $1.10 each , I'm still only at around $1.90 each.
 
Budget Shooter Supply had a great deal on the 300gr. CamPro plated bullets, so I've picked those up. Will let you know how it goes once I've got them all loaded up!
 
7628B9C9-4485-4028-B8D9-3C536751BB95.jpgFor fun plinking loads. Me and my cousins are running 405g hard cast lead projectiles pushed by 10grains of Unique powder. For reference 1lbs is equal to 7000 grains so should get 700 rounds out of a pound of powder which makes it very economical in terms of 45/70. Gives a very light recoil and sub sonic so it isn’t as annoying to people near by (and wives). Even with the sun sonic we get surprising penetration from it. This is into freshly cut poplar logs in -15 conditions.
 

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View attachment 458691For fun plinking loads. Me and my cousins are running 405g hard cast lead projectiles pushed by 10grains of Unique powder. For reference 1lbs is equal to 7000 grains so should get 700 rounds out of a pound of powder which makes it very economical in terms of 45/70. Gives a very light recoil and sub sonic so it isn’t as annoying to people near by (and wives). Even with the sun sonic we get surprising penetration from it. This is into freshly cut poplar logs in -15 conditions.

that must be one hard bullet it still look new
 
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that must be one hard bullet it still look new

That’s my thoughts. I think it has to do with the fact it’s going slow as well. The 1800 ft/s 405g jacketed soft points definitely expanded. Similar penetration tho.
 

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That’s my thoughts. I think it has to do with the fact it’s going slow as well. The 1800 ft/s 405g jacketed soft points definitely expanded. Similar penetration tho.

I have run into similar expansion/penetration with bottleneck calibers. Specifically, 150 partition from 7mauser and 7mag. I think it's the higher velocity causing rapid expansion, like a funny car chute. The 7mauser hits the medium slower, opening the chute only partially, thus penetrating equally. Odd analogy actually.

The 45-70 has a reputation for extreme penetration, it would of course not matter on a plinking/pumpkin load. On game, I would want the bullet to both expand and penetrate. It doesn't help killing performance if the bullet penetrates a 6" Alder after passsing through your animal. Would be easier to match this as nowadays, the 45-70 is usually a 0-150 thick bush cartridge. It's not necessary to worry about performance at 50 yards and 500 yards such as bottleneck magnums.
 
I have run into similar expansion/penetration with bottleneck calibers. Specifically, 150 partition from 7mauser and 7mag. I think it's the higher velocity causing rapid expansion, like a funny car chute. The 7mauser hits the medium slower, opening the chute only partially, thus penetrating equally. Odd analogy actually.

The 45-70 has a reputation for extreme penetration, it would of course not matter on a plinking/pumpkin load. On game, I would want the bullet to both expand and penetrate. It doesn't help killing performance if the bullet penetrates a 6" Alder after passsing through your animal. Would be easier to match this as nowadays, the 45-70 is usually a 0-150 thick bush cartridge. It's not necessary to worry about performance at 50 yards and 500 yards such as bottleneck magnums.

Ya the sub sonic loads are for screwing around with tin cans and at steel for fun and “action practice”. I use the soft point “hot” loads for actual hunting. May use the sub sonics for squirrels or gophers.
 
Nothing complicated needed. A regular plain base cast 405 with a flat nose works well at regular 45-70 pressures. Notice I said pressure, and not velocity. Flat nose bullets aren't dependent on expansion for a good wound channel.

Order a couple hundred and fool around with them, and you'll likely not bother with going back to "J" bullets.

The Revolution brass is shorter, and a pain to reload regular bullets in.
 
that must be one hard bullet it still look new

I've collected lots that I swear I could shoot again. Most I think you could almost run it through the resize/lub diy and would be go as new.


QUOTE=sillymike;17778427]A 45/70 for grouse?... I guess it's as good an excuse to justify one in the safe :p

Most of my hard cast loads for the 45-70 were with Varget.[/QUOTE]

.444 actually, and .44 and 3030. But if a sweet deal on a 45 70 came up I'd use it too.
 
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