CF-98 Reliability Issue

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Hey guys,

So here I am with one more naive question. My CF-98 has a pretty poor reliability these days. It used to be good when I initially purchased it and shot it with 115 gr ammo. However, once I switched to 124gr ammo, the reliability dropped significantly. I tried to clean the gun, but that didn't help. Anyone else had a similar problem?

In my last range visit, the gun jammed at about 1 time every 20 rounds with S&B 124 gr FMJ brass ammo.

Cheers,
UV
 
S&B is pretty good even for bulk FMJ ammo. Try another brand, at least that will tell you if it's the cause. With a rotating barrel it may be a bit more picky than other guns.
 
B said:
S&B is pretty good even for bulk FMJ ammo. Try another brand, at least that will tell you if it's the cause. With a rotating barrel it may be a bit more picky than other guns.
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Sounds good. Will try more ammo and see what happens. Thanks for the help. Didn't know rotating barrel design could be more picky.
 
Ultraviolet said:
Sounds good. Will try more ammo and see what happens. Thanks for the help. Didn't know rotating barrel design could be more picky.
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Not by default but it may prefer certain types of ammunition. Unfortunately my knowledge of the pistol is pretty thin so just trying to offer somewhat useful advice.
 
How did it jam? Slide not close all the way?

The shape of bullets will vary. Combine that with overall length, and you may be using a brand that is too long and wide to reliably work well in your gun. I had that when I tried a commercially reloaded brand in my Shadow. The firm loaded the cartridges long, about 1.145-1.155”. That length and bullet shape wasn’t reliable for me. If that bullet was seated a bit deeper, then it would work all the time.
 
8,000 sounds very low. That is only enough to break it in.

Try different brands and weights of bullets. It may be fussy. Some guns are.

Number your mags and when it jams note which mag. It could be a mag issue.

I assume it is lubed?
 
jimbo14 said:
Maybe something got lost in the translation. Maybe 8000 rounds and it’s time to examine/change springs, etc.
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I thought maybe 8,000 rounds mean between failures but apparently 9mm is 8,000 rounds barrel life and 5.8x21 is 10,000. Still possible but that's an interesting mistranslation.
 
Ultraviolet said:
Hey guys,

So here I am with one more naive question. My CF-98 has a pretty poor reliability these days. It used to be good when I initially purchased it and shot it with 115 gr ammo. However, once I switched to 124gr ammo, the reliability dropped significantly. I tried to clean the gun, but that didn't help. Anyone else had a similar problem?

In my last range visit, the gun jammed at about 1 time every 20 rounds with S&B 124 gr FMJ brass ammo.

Cheers,
UV
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I think you've already found the cause of the unreliability. Hint - I bolded it for you.
 
jimbo14 said:
How did it jam? Slide not close all the way?

The shape of bullets will vary. Combine that with overall length, and you may be using a brand that is too long and wide to reliably work well in your gun. I had that when I tried a commercially reloaded brand in my Shadow. The firm loaded the cartridges long, about 1.145-1.155”. That length and bullet shape wasn’t reliable for me. If that bullet was seated a bit deeper, then it would work all the time.
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Sometimes the slide wouldn't close all the way -- I suspect this is due to the double feeding system not correctly load the round into the chamber
Also sometimes a failed ejection brass would stick at the ejection port
 
Strange. I haven’t had any issues with mine in a couple thousand rounds. 115, 124, 147, light weight frangible, hollow points.

It eats and cycles everything...
 
I shoot a GP and haven't seen any issues with the rotating barrel design, it works fine with light reloads to heavy factory ammo.
 
Hitzy said:
I shoot a GP and haven't seen any issues with the rotating barrel design, it works fine with light reloads to heavy factory ammo.
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lol. My X-Cal was junk. Wouldn’t cycle 147 grain bullets, and the entire slide would lock up (closed) if it got too dirty. Emailed Grand Power Canada and they basically blamed me for not cleaning it well enough, which I highly doubt was the case after having to clean it after every stage of a major match. There’s a reason not a lot of pistols have rotating barrels...
 
its possible that the 115 grain load is hotter than the 124 grain load you shot. without a better description of the issues I can only guess.
 
so this is official Chinese army side arm? Cool. When our troops ever meet them in battle, we win as the Chinese solders will constantly need to clear misfeeds, failure to fire, extract and all other general malfunctions due to unreliable firearms. Some things made in China should stay in China.
 
Jabol said:
so this is official Chinese army side arm? Cool. When our troops ever meet them in battle, we win as the Chinese solders will constantly need to clear misfeeds, failure to fire, extract and all other general malfunctions due to unreliable firearms. Some things made in China should stay in China.
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It's not the official sidearm. It's the export version of it in a different calibre.
 
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