I seen on their website recently they have a limited run DMRII "CR" (close range) model that they are doing a beta run on. they made it for rimfire 25 yard parallax.
Recommend me scope for a PRS style .22lr rifle
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I seen on their website recently they have a limited run DMRII "CR" (close range) model that they are doing a beta run on. they made it for rimfire 25 yard parallax.
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The Cronus Gen1 is what convinced me to be an Athlon dealer. It is one hell of a scope. Prices have fallen and that has put it right in the sweet spot for those who want very good Japanese ED scopes/manf.
Is there a huge difference in viewing between the Cronus and Ares? Not really. At 1035yds is where I do my resolution testing. The Cronus has a slight improvement in small detail at that distance... was it worth the extra $1000 a couple of years back? I said no and have used the ares ETR
Either way, you have scopes that have absolutely deadly tracking through their entire range. Glass that is right there with the big dogs. Features that are current with reticles I much prefer.
Ares ETR or Cronus... you will have a fantastic scope that will work....
Jerry
So I just checked my rifle. My scope is zeroed for 25m and has a 20MOA base. I know my 200m dope is 9 MIL. Playing with my Kestrel and my dope for 300m with SK ammo is 16.9 MIL. Just spun my turrets to see how much elevation I can actually get and I’m making out at 16MIL. Guess having the extra range could come in handy.
Yup, that’s why I went to a 34MM tube and Burris XTR rings.
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If you dont want to spend extra funds right now, remember that the number of shots PAST 300m is small overall. Does the reticle let you hold over a few more mils?
I would be more concerned about tracking ie when you wind the travel up and down, does the impacts stay true or wander left and right... or worst, give irratic travel and maybe not return to zero.
One very tough stage we were shooting in tubes at 125m (or so), then reaching out to 300+m.. back and forth then move, back and forth then move... if you have a wandering impact, how the heck do you know if the 15 to 20mph was causing the problem or if it was a scope issue? I did very well cause I trusted my scope... so held for the wind... and hit most of the targets.
Test your gear and be brutal on how it works. Put targets near areas of dirt so misses are really easy to see. Randomly dial and shoot... if you hit with X dope, the next time you dial that you better also hit... and within the accuracy you expect of your combo.
My confidence in my scope is based on hundreds (maybe thousands by now) of these runs over the last couple of years. Having a scope with all sorts of fancy specs is interesting.. having a scope that delivers on those specs, that's what I want to use.
YMMV
Jerry
If you want zero stop turrets, make sure the zero stop can be set below zero. A hard stop at zero can be a pain in the keester sometimes if your zero changes and you can't get there without allen wrenches.
Plus, if you decide to use a 100 yard zero, you can dial down for closer shots. This can actually make your math a little easier for longer shots.
If you insist upon a Christmas tree reticle, the clutter on the image makes it hard to spot shots in the air and even hard to spot impacts. I would suggest that you go with something cleaner. But, if you are stuck on the xmas thing, it reduces the value of good glass. You might just as well get a Vortex Diamondback Tactical.
If the scope doesn't have a zero stop, you can simply get adjustable scope rings and adjust them so the scope limits out just a little past your zero. With adjustable scope rings you can max out your elevation for long shots.
https://www.google.com/search?q=adjustable+scope+rings&rlz=1C1CHBD_enCA890CA890&oq=adjustable+scope+rings&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3j0i22i30l4.5207j1j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
My Midas Tac 5-25 has arrived. I haven’t had the chance to mount it yet but here are my first impressions vs my LRHS 3-12x44:
- Midas seems to have better glass, although it could be the 56mm vs 44mm difference in objectives
- Midas has very precise feeling turrets
- Midas has a really nice reticle which actually seems thinner than the Bushnell reticle
- I prefer the lower profile and slower speed of the Bushnell turrets
- I prefer the beefier feel of the Bushnell
Hopefully I will have it out to the range tomorrow and really see what I think. So far I think it will suit my needs quite well.
- Midas seems to have better glass, although it could be the 56mm vs 44mm difference in objectives
- Midas has very precise feeling turrets
- Midas has a really nice reticle which actually seems thinner than the Bushnell reticle
- I prefer the lower profile and slower speed of the Bushnell turrets
- I prefer the beefier feel of the Bushnell
Hopefully I will have it out to the range tomorrow and really see what I think. So far I think it will suit my needs quite well.
He's asking about a scope for PRS. Do you shoot PRS? I do, and don't know a single shooter NOT using a X-mas Tree or Horus Ret of some sort. Shooting some 'hold only' stages without one or the other would be a serious handicap.
My shooting buddy has both scopes you mentioned and his opinion is the same as what you have listed. Between him and me, we have 3 midas TAC offerings and none of them have failed to track or return to zero. I've taken mine out to 1400M and it didn't skip a beat. For the price I think they are a good buy. Hopefully it meets your expectations when you get it in the field.
I agree. Holdovers are either much quicker or absolutely required many in many stages.
I think we can all agree that glass quality and reticle type is in the eye of the beholder. Certainly there are measurable differences in lens but it is entirely dependent on what one can perceive. Reticles are about being able to provide useable information to the shooter. XMas tree types come in many varying types and not at all easy to generalise. It is however going to be a balance of calculable information vs cluttered/obstructed view.
Additionally, when it comes to illumination, some scopes light up the entire Xmas tree whilst others just parts or even just the aiming point. How thick and what type of Xmas tree hash marks will have bearing on the view of course.
Nevertheless, if one is playing the PRS game, I don't think anyone doubts the merits of a tree reticle
Hi Jerry, have you got your hands on the Delta Javelin yet? I was pretty set on the Midas Tac until I came across the Javelin. From the limited reviews I've seen/read they sounds like a nice option.
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Had one for a customer... fraternal twin to the Ares ETR which is my current fave scope for performance and value. A few differences including price, knob style and lettering, warranty and reticle.
Supply is currently on backorder but give me a pm or email to discuss further. I have a quick review on my facebook page.
Jerry
Supply is currently on backorder but give me a pm or email to discuss further. I have a quick review on my facebook page.
Jerry
I do!!!
Put your hand in front of your face.
Now spread out your fingers and look around.
Now try to read mirage and spot bullets in flight with your fingers in the way.
If on the other hand, you don't have a thought in your head and just mimic what the Kestrel tells you.... then... well... for one thing you don't know anything... and never will... and you are SOL when your kestrel goes down.
WTF kind of Christmas tree reticles have you looked through?
