So what's the deal with Taylors and Co and Uberti?
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freddyfour
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- Brant County, Ontario
Taylor Uberti's are very nice. Often have nicer wood and some models already come slicked up for cowboy action.
Navy Arms used to also sell Ubertis as well. Doesnt matter which one you buy, they are all high quality firearms.
Navy Arms used to also sell Ubertis as well. Doesnt matter which one you buy, they are all high quality firearms.
vagrantviking
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- High River, Alberta
I'm confused by all that too. It's been all over the map over the decades.
My impression is that Taylor's are "premium" Uberti and/or Pietra products or that they buy unfinished guns and do a higher level of finishing. They're often priced that way too.
Or I might be entirely wrong....
My impression is that Taylor's are "premium" Uberti and/or Pietra products or that they buy unfinished guns and do a higher level of finishing. They're often priced that way too.
Or I might be entirely wrong....
Nibe: Taylor's & Co. are importers. They do not manufacture rifles. The rifles are manufactured by Uberti, to Taylor's specifications. Which may include finish(exclusive to Taylor's), markings, etc. So, when a person buys one of Taylor's rifles they can expect the same quality as any Uberti product. There should be no concern about build quality, resale value, or any other concern. If the rifle you're considering is priced reasonably(compared to a bone stock Uberti), you can purchase it with confidence. Taylor's customer service is also first rate.
Hope this helps.
Al
Hope this helps.
Al
They are not all slicked up.
Special order with short stroke kits.
If your buying a Taylor's Uberti or just Uberti branded, your buying with total confidence as said above.
I've owned plenty of Uberti's over the years and I still own one now.
I have a 1860 Henry in 44-40
Special order with short stroke kits.
If your buying a Taylor's Uberti or just Uberti branded, your buying with total confidence as said above.
I've owned plenty of Uberti's over the years and I still own one now.
I have a 1860 Henry in 44-40
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fingers284
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- Alberta Cowboy Ranges
My experience with Uberti's...if you want to compare a "from the box, strictly stock as from Italy" 73 rifle with an importers "slicked up" offering go to a local tool store and give a made in China ratchet a spin then grab a Snap-on ratchet and do the same...they both work but there is a world of difference.
Uberti's right out of the box do work for plinking, but they are all far from being competition ready if that is your end goal. The action springs that come installed from the factory are a "must change" or you will damage your rifle in 250 rounds or less. These springs are entirely more severe than they need to be and will wear the lever retaining lobe off in very few rounds...Talyor's will have reduced tension "competition springs" in stock & might as well change them for you before they ship.
Even if your just going to plink get those springs changed, if you plan on using the rifle for Cowboy completions the short-stroke, aluminum carrier and titanium firing pin are all options that will make sense now or later on as your skill improves and may or maybe not become important to you but they are not as important as action spring changes.
Uberti's right out of the box do work for plinking, but they are all far from being competition ready if that is your end goal. The action springs that come installed from the factory are a "must change" or you will damage your rifle in 250 rounds or less. These springs are entirely more severe than they need to be and will wear the lever retaining lobe off in very few rounds...Talyor's will have reduced tension "competition springs" in stock & might as well change them for you before they ship.
Even if your just going to plink get those springs changed, if you plan on using the rifle for Cowboy completions the short-stroke, aluminum carrier and titanium firing pin are all options that will make sense now or later on as your skill improves and may or maybe not become important to you but they are not as important as action spring changes.
Nibe: I fully agree with fingers284. The stock springs in Uberti rifles.....especially the lever and lifter springs.... are all stronger than necessary and can cause significant damage to the lever camming lobe, in a matter of a few cycles. So....regardless of the end use for your rifle......I highly recommend replacing these, with Slix reduced power springs. Easy to install and much easier on the rifle. Likewise, I`d recommend replacing the stock mainspring with a reduced power Slix mainspring. Also: Slix reduced power lever safety spring. This will make the lever a lot easier to cycle. Plus, make the rifle easier to shoot and handle, overall.
If you don`t wish to replace springs, I`d recommend at least polishing the ends of the lever and lifter springs. These come from the factory pretty crudely finished....so will benefit from a clean up. This too, will reduce wear on the camming lobe. An alternative to replacing the stock main spring, is to place a shim between it and the lower tang. If you don`t have any brass or aluminum shim material at hand....A piece of hard plastic from an old credit card does a good job.
Keeping the contact points for the lever and lifter springs lightly lubed is also highly recommended. Opinions vary on what works best...but, I found that a dab of lithium grease on the contact surfaces works well.
Al
ps: Slix springs are readily available through Rusty Wood Trading.
If you don`t wish to replace springs, I`d recommend at least polishing the ends of the lever and lifter springs. These come from the factory pretty crudely finished....so will benefit from a clean up. This too, will reduce wear on the camming lobe. An alternative to replacing the stock main spring, is to place a shim between it and the lower tang. If you don`t have any brass or aluminum shim material at hand....A piece of hard plastic from an old credit card does a good job.
Keeping the contact points for the lever and lifter springs lightly lubed is also highly recommended. Opinions vary on what works best...but, I found that a dab of lithium grease on the contact surfaces works well.
Al
ps: Slix springs are readily available through Rusty Wood Trading.
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freddyfour
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Brant County, Ontario
Well, did you have any great success today?
I totally agree with fingers284 and Alex McKr.
It all depends on want road you want to follow.
Myself, I do the minimal slicking as stated above without a short stroke kit installed.
Actually, I'm not even sure if they make one for my 1860 Henry??
Also, complete screw kits made in the USA are available from dealers, as the Italian ones have noted to be soft.
Only problem with threads like this, they tend to scare off people that are not use to doing a little work by themselves.
It all depends on want road you want to follow.
Myself, I do the minimal slicking as stated above without a short stroke kit installed.
Actually, I'm not even sure if they make one for my 1860 Henry??
Also, complete screw kits made in the USA are available from dealers, as the Italian ones have noted to be soft.
Only problem with threads like this, they tend to scare off people that are not use to doing a little work by themselves.
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I can relate. I’m all thumbs when it comes to anything mechanical. However I’ve found that if I push myself out of my comfort zone I can accomplish more than I originally that I could. A great bonus in doing it yourself is that you learn about the gun as opposed to simply admiring it.
