Campro small pistol primers

[mac100]

I just purchased 4000 of these and am not impressed. The primers go in real hard and need to put a lot of force on the press to get them to go in all the way.
I found if I reamed the primer pocket and put a well pronounced bevel on it, only then would it start easier but still needed to apply a bunch of force to have it seat flush.
I have an RCBS rock chucker press and Lee auto prime which sometimes can be tricky for aligning the primer just right.
I switched to the ram prime and alignment was perfect but still need to apply lots of force.
It takes a half hour just to prime 100 cases.
My Remington primers work in my auto prime and so does CCI and Winchesters. I measured them and they are definitely not the same measurement.
I have been reloading for about 20 years now and never had this problem before.

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The silver primer is Remington and brass ones are Campro. Notice how much reaming I have to do to get the Campro in and it’s still sticks up or just flush. The Remington goes in easy.

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The Campro is slightly bigger and definitely longer than the Remington

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Here’s the Remington specs

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Even side to side comparison you can see by eye that they are taller.
Is anyone else having this problem or is there something I’m missing here.

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[Dave in Calgary]

I think these would be a very bad idea in a revolver. High primer jams the cylinder every time.

 

[Bart Bandy]

I have also had some issues with the Campro Ginex primers. I prep my primer pockets pretty carefully so they all go in, but they are hard to get deep enough into the pockets. Approximately 3 rounds per 100 fail my post production checks. Unacceptable loss rate. I won't buy them again unless I can't find other brands.

 

[mac100]

I have also had some issues with the Campro Ginex primers. I prep my primer pockets pretty carefully so they all go in, but they are hard to get deep enough into the pockets. Approximately 3 rounds per 100 fail my post production checks. Unacceptable loss rate. I won't buy them again unless I can't find other brands.

It’s just not worth all the extra time prepping and also the large amounts of pressure to seat them is really scary to me.
I feel sorry for the guys who bought 10000 or more of these.

 

[Tokay444]

I love a tight primer pocket. Means my brass has at least that one more firing left on it.

 

[B]

They are just rebranded S&B are they not..?

 

[.30/06 FTW]

They are just rebranded S&B are they not..?

Ginex imported by Campro, not S&B. From Bosnia not the Czech Republic.

 

[B]

Ginex imported by Campro, not S&B. From Bosnia not the Czech Republic.

Good to know, cheers.

 

[Ruger007]

I was looking at these. I'm glad I stayed with S&B and Fed. Even the S&B can be tight but not to the extreme you are seeing. I will have to measure now for a comparison.

S&B SP .174 and .1175
FED SP .174 and .1185
If any one cares...

 

[.30/06 FTW]

I wonder if their large pistol is like this too.

 

[Ganderite]

I have used 5,000 GInex in 9mm without issue. Range pick up brass.

 

[gewehr76]

What is the lot number on these primers?
Here is my lot and I compared them to CCI silver and Dominion Murom copper, they look the same. CCI actually looks bigger than all of them.

 

[Redblack]

No issues loading a few hundred 9mm in my hornady L&L AP press. It’s actually easier to prime than s&b primers.

 

[catnip]

Just a thought here... that height of .1190 is the same as a small rifle primer. I don't suppose there could have been a mixup somewhere along the line?

 

[wasa]

I have loaded 2000 of the Campro (SPP) in range pick-up 9mm brass. They all went bang, and I don't recall any issues with my Lee turret press with the "Safety Prime" system. Bought mine from site sponsor Tesro a little while ago.

Maybe I got a good batch, but based on my experience (2 boxes of 1000 primers) I'd buy them again.

Also no issues with Remington 1.5 or 5.5 primers, or CCI, or Federal, or Winchester. Haven't tried S&B primers though. So far, all work for me so now I just buy the cheapest I can get.

 

[Meroh]

I think these would be a very bad idea in a revolver. High primer jams the cylinder every time.

I was going to try some, but not now. I have a GP100 and it is a very close fit to start with.

 

[4n2t0]

I have used Ginex in 9mm without issue. Range pick up brass.

This.

 

[Auggie Doggie]

Just a thought here... that height of .1190 is the same as a small rifle primer. I don't suppose there could have been a mixup somewhere along the line?

When measuring height, are you measuring the actual cup, or top of the cup to the anvil? The anvils usually protrude from the cup and are "set" when the primer is seated in the case. The amount of anvil
protrusion can vary a bit.

Auggie D.

 

[B]

When measuring height, are you measuring the actual cup, or top of the cup to the anvil? The anvils usually protrude from the cup and are "set" when the primer is seated in the case. The amount of anvil
protrusion can vary a bit.

Auggie D.

Yup, there is a reason spec sheets measure the cup only.

 

[Freedom Ventures]

I personally loaded over 10,000 (slow year - COVID...) of them in 9mm (range brass) on my Dillon 1050 last year - no problems.

I have sold over 200K around here - only slightly-bad report back was that they are harder than Federals. (Duh)

I guess it's YMMV.