Let's See Those Clay Target Guns

I was also shooting this Browning Citori XT Gold Trap at the same time I had the Rizzini......this one was 32' bbls w/factory screw chokes as well and Grade V-VI wood with a factory installed Gracoil. I acquired this from a fellow CGN'r and when I sold it it went to another CGN'r.
 
the spank said:
Beauty!! Is it still running the original locking block after all these years?
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Yes, original block. I really haven't shot it a lot---I'm guessing 15-20k over the years. After I stopped shooting competition years ago, I used it from time to time for a fun round of skeet. Occasionally, I have used the 20 and 28 ga tubes for sporting clays. The tubes give a weight forward feeling that sure helps with swing through.
 
Cow Town Bill said:
Yes, original block. I really haven't shot it a lot---I'm guessing 15-20k over the years. After I stopped shooting competition years ago, I used it from time to time for a fun round of skeet. Occasionally, I have used the 20 and 28 ga tubes for sporting clays. The tubes give a weight forward feeling that sure helps with swing through.
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My TMS is on its third locking block. The second one was put in incorrectly by the Perazzi Canada rep. Thankfully I recognized when I purchased the gun it needed a block so I had one put in correctly by Vic Tomlinson.
 
Two years ago my gf decided to try her hand at trapshooting. After trying a few guns out she decided on a Beretta A400 Xplor 20ga with 26"bbl. Since she wasn't interested in competitive shooting we went this route to have a gun she could use for trap and hunting. Then last season she went to a couple registered shoots with me and decided to enter one. She enjoyed it so much by the time the shoot ended she was on the hunt for a trap gun. Before we headed for home that day she had contacted a fellow who had an ad on the sales board in the clubhouse for a Browning BT-99 Micro with less than a flat fired through it. He came out to the club and after trying it out she cut the fellow a cheque and bought her first dedicated trap gun. It was still a bit long of an LOP so we sent the stock away, had it shortened and had a kick-eez pad installed on an adjustable butt plate. The gun has the beavertail style forend and a 30" invector plus choked barrel.
 
the spank said:
This was a Rizzini Fierce 1 I purchased new at Prophet River in 2015. CCH receiver, 32' bbls with adj POI rib, factory screw chokes, turkish walnut stocks and factory supplied case. I later sold it to purchase a new JEG Beretta 687 Silver Pigeon III Trap w/ EELL wood.
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Frank, how did you like the Rizzini?
That Fierce has a really high rib on it, some guys are moving that direction with sporting clays guns but It's never appealed to me and I've always stuck with low rib guns. Funny they would put a wood recoil pad on a target gun? The guys with Rizzini's that I know like the guns but I've heard (just hearsay) that they can have bluing problems and the support isn't good but I've always though they were pretty nice.
 
Cow Town Bill said:
This is a Perazzi Comp 1 built in 1968. It bears a striking resemblance to the MX8. Years ago I sent it to Briley for choke tubes and skeet tubes in 20, 28 and 410. One of my favourite clay target shotguns. I had the stock and forend refinished and it now looks better than new. I have owned it for over 40 years and it has never required a single mechanical repair.
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Lovely looking Perazzi Bill. I've always thought that the rounded receiver on the Comp 1 was nicer looking than the square receiver bottom of the Mx8 even though they are otherwise identical. It goes well with the color case hardening!
 
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Falconflyer said:
Lovely looking Perazzi Bill. I've always though that the rounded receiver on the Comp 1 was nicer looking than the square receiver bottom of the Mx8 even though they are otherwise identical. It goes well with the color case hardening!
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Thanks for your comments. Yes, I love the case colouring as well. Mine has stood up well over the years. I have seen some that turn into a shiny metal finish that aren't overly appealing.
 
the spank said:
Two years ago my gf decided to try her hand at trapshooting. After trying a few guns out she decided on a Beretta A400 Xplor 20ga with 26"bbl. Since she wasn't interested in competitive shooting we went this route to have a gun she could use for trap and hunting. Then last season she went to a couple registered shoots with me and decided to enter one. She enjoyed it so much by the time the shoot ended she was on the hunt for a trap gun. Before we headed for home that day she had contacted a fellow who had an ad on the sales board in the clubhouse for a Browning BT-99 Micro with less than a flat fired through it. He came out to the club and after trying it out she cut the fellow a cheque and bought her first dedicated trap gun. It was still a bit long of an LOP so we sent the stock away, had it shortened and had a kick-eez pad installed on an adjustable butt plate. The gun has the beavertail style forend and a 30" invector plus choked barrel.
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The a400 xplor is a great gun. I have the 12 20 and 28ga. I use them for everything along with various sxs guns
 
Falconflyer said:
Frank, how did you like the Rizzini?
That Fierce has a really high rib on it, some guys are moving that direction with sporting clays guns but It's never appealed to me and I've always stuck with low rib guns. Funny they would put a wood recoil pad on a target gun? The guys with Rizzini's that I know like the guns but I've heard (just hearsay) that they can have bluing problems and the support isn't good but I've always though they were pretty nice.
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I really liked the gun. The only reason I sold it was there is no warranty support in Canada and the only way to get any is send it back to Italy. Two friends had issues with theirs. The firing pins were piercing primers and within 2500 rounds needed pins and could not get warranty support. I had no issues with mine in that way. They were shooting challenger ammo and I was shooting Federal so I am wondering if it was a primer issue?
 
the spank said:
Thats because those old Perazzi's like mine and his aren't a true bone and charcoal CCH. They are a Cyanide treatment.
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I'm not going to disagree with your views on the durability of one method vs the other but I will say that I think the durability of either depends a lot on how much handling it get's, if it has a lacquer applied to protect it and I've read that even direct sunlight will fade the colors.
 
the spank said:
Thats because those old Perazzi's like mine and his aren't a true bone and charcoal CCH. They are a Cyanide treatment.
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I think its the opposite, Spank. Charcoal CC are fairly durable but the cyanide method (used on Parker reproductions) wears easily. Protection of the case coloured parts by laquer or equivalent helps a lot as another member has stated.
 
This is a Perazzi MX3 game gun weighing a tad over 7 lbs. Light weight Perazzi game guns are fairly hard to find but when you find one they are a joy in the field albeit on the light side for clay targets. It has 28" barrels with fixed chokes of Mod and IMod. I love the engraving and superb wood. A number of years ago a friend convinced me to sell it to him. Last year he relented and sold it back to me. Lucky me.
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Cow Town Bill said:
This is a Perazzi MX3 game gun weighing a tad over 7 lbs. Light weight Perazzi game guns are fairly hard to find but when you find one they are a joy in the field albeit on the light side for clay targets. It has 28" barrels with fixed chokes of Mod and IMod. I love the engraving and superb wood. A number of years ago a friend convinced me to sell it to him. Last year he relented and sold it back to me. Lucky me.
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Wow!! :sok2 NICE!!
 
Cow Town Bill said:
I think its the opposite, Spank. Charcoal CC are fairly durable but the cyanide method (used on Parker reproductions) wears easily. Protection of the case coloured parts by laquer or equivalent helps a lot as another member has stated.
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I was told by a top notch gunsmith that looked at my MX8 that the tiger stripes type pattern gives it away that it's a cyanide case hardening. I don't know which is more durable but mine is worn pretty good where the gun has been carried. My MX8 almost looks from the finish as though it was lacquered to protect it. Pretty sure the Rizzini I had was clear coated as well.
 
Having owned both types of finished guns the cyanide version wears much faster to a worn grey color than a traditional bone and charcoal hardening. I dont know which keeps its hardness the best but traditional methods hold their colors much better
 
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