My father recently picked up a 783 chambered in 22-250. I was looking to see what powder/ bullet combo everyone is using. I have a decent selection of bullets and powders but won’t be able to get the trigger time to work up a pet load. Do they prefer loading on the warmer side? Flat base or boat-tail? Thanks in advance.
Rem 783 22-250, good place to start
- Thread starter brewmech
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Have tried the following:
RL15 using 55 grain Hornady & 55 grain cheap remington. Approx 1 inch group. Not great. Bullet type doesn't seem to matter.
IMR3031 using 55 grain Hornady & 55 grain cheap remington. Started approx 2 or 3 grains below max & stopped there: Approx 1 inch groups. Not great
Not really satisfied so am going to go toward max on IMR3031 & see what happens.
Probably won't test until spring so can't provide anything further.
RL15 using 55 grain Hornady & 55 grain cheap remington. Approx 1 inch group. Not great. Bullet type doesn't seem to matter.
IMR3031 using 55 grain Hornady & 55 grain cheap remington. Started approx 2 or 3 grains below max & stopped there: Approx 1 inch groups. Not great
Not really satisfied so am going to go toward max on IMR3031 & see what happens.
Probably won't test until spring so can't provide anything further.
ackleyruger
Member
- Location
- central AB
Mine have shot great with 35.5 grains of Imr 4064 and 55 grain bullets.
thatmikeguy
Regular
- Location
- Steinbach, Manitoba
My best load was with varget and a flat base bullet. Boat tails shot well too but flat base was better.
55 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips and Winchester 760/H414 works together real nice...Shoots half inch at 3850 FPS in a PGW Custom Sporter and a Sako Varmint.
The load is over anything you will find in the books but I find they have really dialed back loads with some powders nowadays...Something to do with steering sales I think.
The load is over anything you will find in the books but I find they have really dialed back loads with some powders nowadays...Something to do with steering sales I think.
Naw. More likely the company liability Lawyers getting shivers over the idea that someone uses a load fit for a gun in good shape, in one that isn't, and trying to make it out that the Company was at fault rather than the user!
Each rifle is an entity unto itself, and reloaders have to take that in to account while doing load development.
Loads that are safe in one rifle are not always safe in all of them. The Publishers of reloading data have to account for the lowest common denominator, which in this case, means the stupid.
My accuracy load is 55gr Hornady VMAX and 35.5gr of Varget. This loads works very well in my Browning B78 and Ruger No1 SS rifles. No problem keeping 5 round groups in less than an inch at 100y. Deadly on ground hogs as well.
The reason I believe powder sales are being steered by the latest published load data is because in older reloading manuals you will find the loads for some powders like W760 were much stiffer back in the day with the corresponding faster velocities...In the latest manuals they will have the newer latest powders on offer loaded up to healthy velocity/pressure levels and you will find some of the older powders loaded down...They even publish the lower pressure levels...It definitely looks like sales spin.
Sierra reload data does not seem to do this but Hodgdon sure does...The difference being Hodgdon sells powder Sierra sells bullets.
The 22-250 is a fine cartridge, I have owned several. But it is a legitimized wildcat, and should be treated like a wildcat. You can get into trouble real quick, sometimes.
And not every rifle can handle top loads. My advice, try a box of factory first. That will let you know if the rifle is ordinary, or an exception. The throats burn out in the 22-250 fairly quickly, and when the throat is a bit torched, it will handle a bit more powder than would be safe in another rifle.
It's been my experience that W-W 760 or Hodgdon 414, (same powder), is not temperature stable enough for my liking. I'd advise against using it.
I've attached a few photos of a 22-250 throat, typical of what you'd find in a used 22-250. Your rifle is new, if you try loads that work good in a rifle with a throat that is eroded, the pressures may be excessive in a new gun.
For the record, H380 was an unnamed surplus powder that Hodgdon had a bunch of. Bruce was trying it in his 22-250, and with 38 grains of powder behind a 55 grain bullet he got some pretty good groups. So he named it H380. At least that is what I've read.
And not every rifle can handle top loads. My advice, try a box of factory first. That will let you know if the rifle is ordinary, or an exception. The throats burn out in the 22-250 fairly quickly, and when the throat is a bit torched, it will handle a bit more powder than would be safe in another rifle.
It's been my experience that W-W 760 or Hodgdon 414, (same powder), is not temperature stable enough for my liking. I'd advise against using it.
I've attached a few photos of a 22-250 throat, typical of what you'd find in a used 22-250. Your rifle is new, if you try loads that work good in a rifle with a throat that is eroded, the pressures may be excessive in a new gun.
For the record, H380 was an unnamed surplus powder that Hodgdon had a bunch of. Bruce was trying it in his 22-250, and with 38 grains of powder behind a 55 grain bullet he got some pretty good groups. So he named it H380. At least that is what I've read.
