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Those .310 cadets were so hard to sell that some were converted to #### and click toy rifles. Others were converted to .30-30, and rebored to .357.
Incidentally, Lee Harvey Oswald bought his Carcano and S&W revolver from Kleins.
 
tiriaq said:
Those .310 cadets were so hard to sell that some were converted to #### and click toy rifles. Others were converted to .30-30, and rebored to .357.
Incidentally, Lee Harvey Oswald bought his Carcano and S&W revolver from Kleins.
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Ha!! I wonder if Kleins also supplied those magic bullets.. You know the one's that can go through two people, heads, arms, and leg bone! and still remain pristine intact. Gotta get me some of those rock busters.
 
At those prices I'll have 2 of everything!

Ahh the simpler times... I wonder how old you had to be to buy a rifle back than.

Apparently Simpson Sears use to sell Enfield for $15 or so.
 
I have a catalog from United Army Surplus Sales in Winnipeg from 1972 that lists jungle carbines for $49.97 and Lee Enfield sniper rifles with scope and wooden case for $95.00.

303 #1 Mk III rifles were $29.87, in both uncut and "sporter" versions.

A brand new Sako forester was $179.95

And no, I didn't order anything from the thing. I had just come back from a long trip abroad and was broke and working again, saving for my next trip.
 
GeoTrekr said:
Sweet! You could make a 2800 yard shot with iron sights! :p Anyone have the ballistics info for a .30-06 180 grainer out to 2800 yards? ;)
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What I heard is that that was useful for shooting into positions or towns occupied by the enemy mainly to demoralize them, not really for picking off people at that range.
 
Tyler said:
I'm using U.S. figures because they are easier to obtain, also, our dollar value was pretty much similar back then.

Average wage of U.S. worker in 1959: $3,855.80
Adjusted to inflation (2006): $25,961.37

Average U.S. wage today (2006): $38,651.41

Price of M1 Garand in 1959: $97.50
In 2006 Dollars: $656.61

Difference in average salary, then and now: $12,690+

So the average Joe makes $12,690 more today than in 1959, and the price of a Garand has stayed pretty much the same, as you can buy Garands for around $650 from P&S Militaria, or anywhere else... add $200 for one in good shape, and we're still ahead of the game, because we make much more money now.

The only real deals would be the No.4 Mk1 T, or any of the dirt cheap No1. Mk 3's, but not by much. Personally, I don't feel like waiting 50 years to make a few hundred, or a thousand dollars profit on any rifle.

My advice? Don't invest in Milsurps if you plan on making any money, unless you feel like waiting 50 years for a moderate profit.

Most milsurps are CHEAPER now when we consider inflation and increased wages. So QUIT WHINING! :p
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Your argument is solid if one was to buy at makret prices now, and expect to make a profit over time.
However, you do not take into accound supply and demand. Its only a year ago, or so, that garands were 500, now 800-900. I dont believe inflation has been that bad in the last year.

For any given milsurp, its genereally correct that they will not give a great return, over time. Unless you but for much less than its current market value. This is where i come in. If you have expensive rifles, and your selling for less, im your friend ;)
 
Tyler said:
I'm using U.S. figures because they are easier to obtain, also, our dollar value was pretty much similar back then.

Average wage of U.S. worker in 1959: $3,855.80
Adjusted to inflation (2006): $25,961.37

Average U.S. wage today (2006): $38,651.41

Price of M1 Garand in 1959: $97.50
In 2006 Dollars: $656.61

Difference in average salary, then and now: $12,690+

So the average Joe makes $12,690 more today than in 1959, and the price of a Garand has stayed pretty much the same, as you can buy Garands for around $650 from P&S Militaria, or anywhere else... add $200 for one in good shape, and we're still ahead of the game, because we make much more money now.

The only real deals would be the No.4 Mk1 T, or any of the dirt cheap No1. Mk 3's, but not by much. Personally, I don't feel like waiting 50 years to make a few hundred, or a thousand dollars profit on any rifle.

My advice? Don't invest in Milsurps if you plan on making any money, unless you feel like waiting 50 years for a moderate profit.

Most milsurps are CHEAPER now when we consider inflation and increased wages. So QUIT WHINING! :p
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But on the other side of the coin, don't sit around scratching your balls too long waiting to decide...the price goes up, sometimes with each scratch!
There are deals still to be had. Keep your eyes open.

It looks like a good paper for a Procrastinator!
 
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My first milsurp a m38 swedish mauser $69.99. One of those swedish semi,s $89.99.A J.C. carbine $119.99.All from the mid eighties.M1 Garand $169.99.Jap 99 $90.00.Hungarian M44 $44.00.All in the last six years.I know the greatest deal of all time will be when you could have bought a forged receivered copy of a M14 for the unbelivable price of $399.99.
 
I DID buy a couple of cadet martini's for $9.95! The suckers who bought the ones converted to 32Win spl (not 30-30) found out they kicked like a missouri mule!
Ir was funny to see the .310 versions called high power.
 
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