Yep, thats about what folks here and elsewhere are saying, so, a Fazakerly, No 4 Mk2 in very good Condition,,, without the docs I am thinking $600 -$700 ish and with the docs $700-$800 ish??? I am new to pricing enfields. Have been wanting a longbranch for years and a C no 7 for decades prices are getting higher especially for th C no 7 .22! I don't want to overpay but also don't want to screw the guy over.
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Yep, thats about what folks here and elsewhere are saying, so, a Fazakerly, No 4 Mk2 in very good Condition,,, without the docs I am thinking $600 -$700 ish and with the docs $700-$800 ish??? I am new to pricing enfields. Have been wanting a longbranch for years and a C no 7 for decades prices are getting higher especially for th C no 7 .22! I don't want to overpay but also don't want to screw the guy over.
I think your initial $600.00-$700.00 valuation might be a bit light given recent EE prices but that’s the idea for sure. Of course it depends on condition but I’d think a decent MkII would fetch at least between $800.00 and $900.00 at present.
It definitely would be $800 to $900 here, without paper, with paper I'd guess about $1000 maybe $1100. The price on LE's is only going one way.
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- Western Manitoba
I wonder about the Long Branch thing. Yes, it is Canadian made, but is a Mk.1*, usually - meaning that bolt head dismount slot will slowly chip away and eventually fail - same as the Savages - the main reason the British did not go with that mod - they all stayed with a Mk.1. But, to each his own - in my opinion the Long Branch and Savage Mk.1* have a cheapened war-time expedient short cut, that will fail, that is not recognized by people that buy these rifles. That aspect, in my opinion, makes the British made rifles more durable. The conversions - whether 1/2 or 1/3 to make them like the Mk.II, are a significant improvement, I think. But maybe I live alone with my opinion. After owning perhaps a dozen No. 4's at different times, I am left with one - a full stock 1944 Long Branch, and it is not a rifle that I would want to depend on for years of service. The P14 and the M1917 are a different story - I have several of both here, and I think they are better built rifles than the No. 4's.
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I liked the video from riflechair.
I have all of the No 4s mentioned and the Long Beach is my favorite.
I have a few P14 and P17s
They were used in a short film Paradise Siding
I supplied the rifles, slings, bayonets and scabbards.
I have all of the No 4s mentioned and the Long Beach is my favorite.
I have a few P14 and P17s
They were used in a short film Paradise Siding
I supplied the rifles, slings, bayonets and scabbards.
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This is all great info and ideas, thanks, I might get to see it in person as early as tomorrow and will get some pics to post!
I have a sporter No 4 and an ooolld sporter with the battle peep sights, the serial no is worn off along with everything else. It was my grandfathers, he was a fisherman/trapper/hunter out of Harrington PQ, shot lots of seals, Caribou, and everything else that walked crawled swam or flew! I haven't shot it in years but when I did it was still very accurate, surprised my friends! That one is priceless to me and may be junk to everyone else!
I have a sporter No 4 and an ooolld sporter with the battle peep sights, the serial no is worn off along with everything else. It was my grandfathers, he was a fisherman/trapper/hunter out of Harrington PQ, shot lots of seals, Caribou, and everything else that walked crawled swam or flew! I haven't shot it in years but when I did it was still very accurate, surprised my friends! That one is priceless to me and may be junk to everyone else!
Ok, the good, bad and ugly, sorry for the link i am still trying to learn to post pics directly. He does not have the paperwork said that the military keeps the records so perhaps I can get a copy from them, bu I doubt it. My apologies for the bore pics I was holding and snapping my self! The bore is better than show with shiny lands and the grooves a bit dark but it needed cleaning so may be even better sharp edges I would say 7-8/10 everything seems to match except the mag it is worn but functions!
Only one stress crack on the wood on the side about 5 inches looks stable and tight.
So the question I ask you all, without consideration that it is a ranger rifle( it is) he still had it in his ranger case) what would be a reasonable price to pay for this 1953 Fazakerly No 4 MK2? Thanks for following this thread and helping out! Cheers Bob.
https://imgur.com/a/fbQWe0S
Only one stress crack on the wood on the side about 5 inches looks stable and tight.
So the question I ask you all, without consideration that it is a ranger rifle( it is) he still had it in his ranger case) what would be a reasonable price to pay for this 1953 Fazakerly No 4 MK2? Thanks for following this thread and helping out! Cheers Bob.
https://imgur.com/a/fbQWe0S
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- Western Manitoba
So, if I were to follow the adage of buy the rifle, not the story, what you are selling is a rifle that should have had a matching serial number on magazine, but does not. And that is it. You apparently can not document the Ranger connection, and apparently do not have the Ranger soft case. So, back up to Post #2, I would think??
Yep, pretty much. I learned a lot reading what you folks wrote, did some more research etc. Initially I thought all ranger rifles were LB, found out different and the seller also found out he couldn't get a copy of the gifting which seems weird and may just be the local MC of their rangers.
I am going to print up a letter stating he was gifted the rifle on the date,, serial no of rifle,, his ranger ID no. Etc and have him sign it as provenance with a witness. Probably the best I can do but at least it can be followed back to source after I croak and the wife sells all my stuff!!
OP, the going price for a Faz No4 MkII on the open market is around $750 for a rifle in the condition shown in your pics.
The mismatched mag wouldn't be a deal breaker for me at that price.
That rifle has been there and done that.
The serial number should be verifiable, but it likely won't be a free search.
I haven't been close enough to many Ranger rifles to know if they were marked with Canadian stamps. Any No4 MkII with Canadian approval stamps or property stamps would only have gone to the Rangers, IMHO.
I wouldn't rate that rifle as more that G-VG.
As for the crack, something had to cause it to happen. Stable or not. I'm willing to bet it needs the ways refinished.
The mismatched mag wouldn't be a deal breaker for me at that price.
That rifle has been there and done that.
The serial number should be verifiable, but it likely won't be a free search.
I haven't been close enough to many Ranger rifles to know if they were marked with Canadian stamps. Any No4 MkII with Canadian approval stamps or property stamps would only have gone to the Rangers, IMHO.
I wouldn't rate that rifle as more that G-VG.
As for the crack, something had to cause it to happen. Stable or not. I'm willing to bet it needs the ways refinished.
The paperwork things was hit and miss, I ended up getting mine through a DND FOI request for my records.
Personally I’d say that unless they can provide records then no premium. For all you know she got that case from a friend stuffed a No 4 in there and then claimed it was a “Ranger Rifle”.
Also, the cases are non standard. Not everyone gets a case and the ones that do often get different styles, mine looks like an old school canvass case with no padding, it’s made of nylon fabric without handles but it does have a clip to close the end.
Personally I’d say that unless they can provide records then no premium. For all you know she got that case from a friend stuffed a No 4 in there and then claimed it was a “Ranger Rifle”.
Also, the cases are non standard. Not everyone gets a case and the ones that do often get different styles, mine looks like an old school canvass case with no padding, it’s made of nylon fabric without handles but it does have a clip to close the end.
I have a CADPAT style one that has the badge embroidered on it. Not sure if this was issued or done up by the previous owner who was a Ranger.
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I personally don’t see why Ranger rifles would be a premium. Many were abused by their owners in ways a standard Lee Enfield would not have been in regular service. To each their own, but always buy the rifle not the story.
Nice score! $600 is a pretty good price, congrats!
The way I see it Ranger rifles are pretty damned rare. Maybe 50% of my patrol bothered to go through the gifting process, so if that’s average then there’s likely only 2000 to 3000 thousand examples in existence. They are some of the last No4 rifles in service anywhere in the world, and that makes them pretty exceptional.
The way I see it Ranger rifles are pretty damned rare. Maybe 50% of my patrol bothered to go through the gifting process, so if that’s average then there’s likely only 2000 to 3000 thousand examples in existence. They are some of the last No4 rifles in service anywhere in the world, and that makes them pretty exceptional.
