Best way to ask landowners

Bring a kid or 2 and work that angle. Most productive method. If no kid available bring a hot girlfriend. If no hot girlfriend available rent one.
 
Guy JR said:
Bring a kid or 2 and work that angle. Most productive method. If no kid available bring a hot girlfriend. If no hot girlfriend available rent one.
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Skip the hot girlfriend... sometimes the farmer's wife answers the door. Kids are a good bit... like sprinkles on a vanilla cone.
 
umchorn2 said:
After locating where the landowner lives, visually assess the property. After the assessment, dress appropriately in attire that the landowner might feel is suitable for a first impression. Walk casually up to the door and knock firmly 5 times.

When the landowner opens the door, if you know the landowners name, use it to introduce yourself. For example, landowner opens door and you say “Mr. Landowner”, I’m “Mr. Beau Hunter”. After such introduction tell the landowner you are here to show a picture of a missing person. Ask if you can show them a picture of the missing person. When the landowner acquiesces, show them the printed picture of Sir Robert L. Borden using a current $100 Canadian bill.

Once the landowner visually sees the picture on the bill, ask them if they would mind taking it as well as your contact information. If the landowner agrees, make sure you have the ability to take down the landowner’s contact info as well. Tell them you will be in contact with them sometime in August or September for further documentation. Follow up in August or September with a phone call and discuss the terms and details of how and when you will be using their property. Eventually you will need their signature confirming they have indeed granted you written permission to be on their private property.

If need be, hand out a couple more wallet sized “missing person” photos in case they lose the first one and prepare your contract with the appropriate agreed upon dates.
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That's gotta rank as one of the weirdest posts I've read on here in a while, not an easy task.
 
We allow just about anyone on to hunt if they show us the respect of asking permission, caveat being that we only allow one party of hunters per chunk of land at a time, so we schedule, grant or withhold permission on a daily basis. I takes some effort on all parties parts but the land is occupied most days all hunting season and they report any signs of trespass for us to investigate. Quite often hunters without any obligation/expectation will give us a little bit of whatever game they got if they had a successful hunt on our property, which is very much so appreciated, and makes us likely to favor you the following year... who said bribes do not work?

If you're looking for drive on access I highly recommend having a nice clean truck both when you visit and when you go to hunt there as weed and soil contamination is becoming a very large threat land owners, especially if the land is used for agriculture.
 
1963beretta said:
Agree! I help the land owner that gives me permission where ever I can. This past weekend, I brought my tools and fixed his staircase heading up into the barn. He didn't ask me to do it, but I’m sure he was pleasantly surprised the next time he went up them in the afternoon. Little things like that are what a lot of landowners appreciate
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Same here. Best gopher patch was on farmer friends property that raised arabian horses. Cleaning stables sometimes and mending fence more often was a regular and welcome chore.
A different farmer friend much closer to town three of us put those square bails onto 35 foot trailer and nestled into a barn loft during a family crisis.
Networking takes a different turn in rural property.
 
umchorn2 said:
After locating where the landowner lives, visually assess the property. After the assessment, dress appropriately in attire that the landowner might feel is suitable for a first impression. Walk casually up to the door and knock firmly 5 times.

When the landowner opens the door, if you know the landowners name, use it to introduce yourself. For example, landowner opens door and you say “Mr. Landowner”, I’m “Mr. Beau Hunter”. After such introduction tell the landowner you are here to show a picture of a missing person. Ask if you can show them a picture of the missing person. When the landowner acquiesces, show them the printed picture of Sir Robert L. Borden using a current $100 Canadian bill.

Once the landowner visually sees the picture on the bill, ask them if they would mind taking it as well as your contact information. If the landowner agrees, make sure you have the ability to take down the landowner’s contact info as well. Tell them you will be in contact with them sometime in August or September for further documentation. Follow up in August or September with a phone call and discuss the terms and details of how and when you will be using their property. Eventually you will need their signature confirming they have indeed granted you written permission to be on their private property.

If need be, hand out a couple more wallet sized “missing person” photos in case they lose the first one and prepare your contract with the appropriate agreed upon dates.
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You sound like a snake oil salesmen. Wanna see your face after a full day handling-stacking 60 pound square bales because a farmer friend asks you for a favour.
 
Brutus said:
You sound like a snake oil salesmen. Wanna see your face after a full day handling-stacking 60 pound square bales because a farmer friend asks you for a favour.
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A few weeks back, I was tasked with shovelling about a ton of feed from a silo. While I was hurling corn into the feeder, the landowner asked if I wanted to use a bigger shovel. Too embarrassed to decline I said sure. Well, aside from the fact that I’m still picking corn dust from my nose three weeks later, my lats and lower back are still sore. Fack, that pigeon hunt was a lot of work!
 
Face to face. Also, for our farm land we often have a neighbour who knows the hunter who comes and makes the introduction. That adds credibility and for those people we never think twice about it .. if they're good enough for Vic to bring them over or give them our number, they're good enough for us.
 
1963beretta said:
A few weeks back, I was tasked with shovelling about a ton of feed from a silo. While I was hurling corn into the feeder, the landowner asked if I wanted to use a bigger shovel. Too embarrassed to decline I said sure. Well, aside from the fact that I’m still picking corn dust from my nose three weeks later, my lats and lower back are still sore. Fack, that pigeon hunt was a lot of work!
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Tis the life we choose right friend!

Farmers make better company than most professors that make the news these days.
Plus I learned so much the history of the Palliser Triangle from real people close to the land.

Be well
 
Brutus said:
Networking takes a different turn in rural property.
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Volunteering and/or being involved in the community is often the best door opener.
- As in, while volunteering at a local cross-country race, talks turns to hunting and shooting, next thing you know, the woman at the juice table mentions that they have a big pigeon problem at the farm and is asking for suggestions for ways to deal with them without scaring the other farm animals... Next thing you know, I offered to help and was asked if I could swing by on a Sunday morning...

And once you are in good term with one farmer, chances are he'll talk to his other friend famers how you were able to help him...
 
Brutus said:
Networking takes a different turn in rural property.
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Yep.

Go in person, ask politely, and act with good grace if you are turned down.

Once you have a contact in an area, it is usually a fair easy thing to develop that in to a network of neighbors and friends until you can pretty much pick and choose among your options. But it's best to figure that may take years, not weeks or days.

One of the properties that both Brutus and I hunted on, started out as a chance comment by the owners, to my wife, that they had far too many gophers around, which she offered my services for.

Other properties I have had access to simply for the asking, and some through other friends.

If someone I did not know showed up offering to do Volunteer Work, I would likely direct them to the nearest Church or similar organization. Someone acting like a snake oil salesman, on the other hand, would get laughed at, or soundly insulted, if not both, and told not to come back.
 
trevj said:
Yep.

Go in person, ask politely, and act with good grace if you are turned down.

Once you have a contact in an area, it is usually a fair easy thing to develop that in to a network of neighbors and friends until you can pretty much pick and choose among your options. But it's best to figure that may take years, not weeks or days.

One of the properties that both Brutus and I hunted on, started out as a chance comment by the owners, to my wife, that they had far too many gophers around, which she offered my services for.

Other properties I have had access to simply for the asking, and some through other friends.

If someone I did not know showed up offering to do Volunteer Work, I would likely direct them to the nearest Church or similar organization. Someone acting like a snake oil salesman, on the other hand, would get laughed at, or soundly insulted, if not both, and told not to come back.
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Was a golden property Trevor!
Forever in your debt for such a sweet opportunity.
IIRC that hilly region was almost the northern tip of the Dirt Hills? Its opposite just due east was the Cactus Hills??

Be well friend
 
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Go well in advance of your hunting trip. Opening day is not the right time to ask for permission. Be polite and courteous and tell him/her exactly what you're going after and when you intend to come.

Be polite even if you are rejected and thank him for his time. He might try to pull your chain and ask you if you know the difference between a cow and a deer. Assure him/her that you do.

Be prepared for lots of rejections and don't take it personally. They don't know what a nice guy you are and may have been burned in the past.

If you're a bow hunter your odds of success are much better as they will have more respect for your initiative and consider you rather harmless.
 
Manitoba landowner here. There really does seem to be a big difference between east and west hunting requests. I'm pretty open to anyone hunting on my land, as long as they are polite when they ask. Which everyone has been. I'm really not too worried if it is face to face or over the phone. I'd probably be pretty pumped if I got a snail mail request, just due to the novelty, ha. I don't need or expect any gifts/money/work in return. As long as no one else is hunting that field, the crop is off, and it isn't my home quarter, you will be good to go.

Though I will ask if you support Ducks Unlimited. If you say yes, you will get denied. If you lie, and I find out, you will never be welcome to my property again. That's really my only stipulation.
 
ianfroese said:
Manitoba landowner here. There really does seem to be a big difference between east and west hunting requests. I'm pretty open to anyone hunting on my land, as long as they are polite when they ask. Which everyone has been. I'm really not too worried if it is face to face or over the phone. I'd probably be pretty pumped if I got a snail mail request, just due to the novelty, ha. I don't need or expect any gifts/money/work in return. As long as no one else is hunting that field, the crop is off, and it isn't my home quarter, you will be good to go.

Though I will ask if you support Ducks Unlimited. If you say yes, you will get denied. If you lie, and I find out, you will never be welcome to my property again. That's really my only stipulation.
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Ok, now you’ve got to tell us why you dislike DU so much......
 
PSE said:
Go well in advance of your hunting trip. Opening day is not the right time to ask for permission.
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This is one of the most important pieces of advice, the owners of several properties we hunt on automatically deny everybody who shows up just before or after opening day. Some of them even put up no hunting signs the day before a season opens.
 
I have been turned around countess times with refusals, no worries and move on. They owns the land.

My problem is not asking or hunting, I'm land owner myself and hunt at other's properties too. My problem is thankless people.

I have given permission to countless people to come hunt and shoot or sight at our farms.

Not once and most never came back to thank me, even people here from CGN board.

I have let people on my land without even knowing them or meeting them.

No One ever came back, even a guy complaint once that the land was too wet and had to drive an hour for nothing - Priceless
 
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