1915 Favorite - .25 Stevens, Shooting Again

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Lots of Stevens threads this week. By pure coincidence, I got my .25 running this week. I converted this to centerfire earlier in the year and then ran out of time to make ammo. Note that this is a chambering intended to replicate the original rimfire ballistics in something you can shoot; these are weak actions not to be hotrodded.

Dimensionally, .25 ACP is virtually identical to the .25 Stevens Short. It does fire .25 ACP cases (I strongly recommend against firing factory .25 ACP; the pressures actually run pretty high and that translates into more bolt thrust than this action was designed for.) but the thin rim made repeated strikes necessary. The .25 Longs are actually significantly longer than the shorts as well. As a side note, the centerfire .25 Stevens Long is also known as the .25-10 or .25 Halstad.

.22 Hornet cases offer a really simple, straightforward case conversion. And .25 ACP dies, being straightwalled (I don't detect a taper in the dies or on the cases I have) go straight through, meaning you can size any length you want.

I turned an expander plug and installed that in place of the decapper pin. One pass and the case was essentially blown out. Didn't lose any in that process (I screwed up a few here and there but always my own fault).

Factory:
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Next, just run the sizing die down the whole length (I found I had to remove the expander plug or it would ruin my cases); you end up with a short belt above the rim:
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Make a mandrel for chucking this bad boy in the mini lathe:
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Turn off the belt:
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Then, just trim to length on a proper case trimmer - that's IT, load:
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And Shoot!
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I ran 50 successful shots through it; however now is when I discovered that I should have slugged my bore before I bought bullets and a mold (bangin my head "emoji" as the kids say). I am shooting .251" and from a quick glance I should have got .257". On the bright side, it's easier to source .257". Not a problem! Despite the tumbling (the bore is beautiful, doubt it was shot much) I had an absolute "blast" with it (too punny, right?) shooting steel today. It hit everything I was aiming at, and with these light loads they are QUIET.

Anyway, a very enjoyable little rifle. They have their design limitations and safety is paramount with these, but I get a real kick out of shooting these tiny little reloadable cartridges. Keep yer powder dry and have a great weekend folks.
 
Excellent tutorial!

The action is a swinging block, not a dropping block. The block is "L" shaped, and pivots on a screw, tipping down to expose the chamber. Lever linkage props the block up. The action is not a strong one, hence NorthCoastBigBore's warning about pressure.
 
On my win 1885 I ran into the same issue with bullets ,the 251 would pattern and then tried the BB .258 /85 gr for the 25-20 .As I mentioned before my barrel is a bit ugly inside and it groups now at around an inch at 50 yards

I did carefully cut the mouth on a dud rf and the bullet size dominion used in the day on the 25 long measured up at .256 so the .258 work great in my barrel

Nice to see the old Stevens working again. Sure are interesting little actions from the past and fun to plink with now that it will use reloadable cases and no need to hunt down the old Rf ammo that is either going to fire or not

well done
 
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Is this the same cartridge that Cooey put out in a single shot? My nephew has a 25 RF Cooey, but has lamented that he'll never get to shoot it. This would be a big help as far as that goes
 
Thanks folks; and pmatuk thanks for that info. I'm going to try a different alloy in my mold and see if it won't bump up that far, but I'll also pick up something along those lines. 85 grain .257/.259" molds are easy enough to find.

Is this the same cartridge that Cooey put out in a single shot? My nephew has a 25 RF Cooey, but has lamented that he'll never get to shoot it. This would be a big help as far as that goes

Tokguy, yes that's the same cartridge.
 
I really want one of these but would like to put a liner in and convert to 22LR. I’m guessing you never did that because it ruins the originality of the rifle and am thinking this would only be done on worn out ones. Problem is the .25’s are usually in good condition. I understand this can also be done on the 32RF as well.
 
I relined a .22 Favorite. Decent rifle, horrible bore. Lining one of these is really straightforward. Barrel comes right out, run the liner drill through, bond in the liner, trim the ends, crowning the muzzle, chamber, extractor cut. Barrel steel is soft, drills easily.
If the rifle is loose and has the shakes, a complete rebuilt is necessary with new pivots being installed. Might be necessary to ream the hole for the breech block pivot and install an oversized screw. Still think it is a good idea to avoid high speed ammunition.
 
I really want one of these but would like to put a liner in and convert to 22LR. I’m guessing you never did that because it ruins the originality of the rifle and am thinking this would only be done on worn out ones. Problem is the .25’s are usually in good condition. I understand this can also be done on the 32RF as well.

Actually, I just enjoy the challenge of making and shooting ammunition. It's the journey not the destination :)

I have a .32 as well I converted that to centerfire a few years ago and shoot .32 Short and Long Colt out of that, it's surprisingly accurate and also a riot to shoot. I made a tang sight for that one also.
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Liners are a great solution for maintaining the original barrel markings and if I didn't personally enjoy shooting these small centerfires, I'd not hesitate to reline one with a .22 liner.

Another option for Stevens Favorites, is to simply grab a take off barrel and turn the shank down, cut an extractor slot; if you don't mind losing the markings (save the original barrel). Cut a dovetail for a threaded lug to retain the forend.
 
Nice work! I have a favourite in 32 colt and a marksman in (rebarreled) 22rf, both shoot nice, but still my favourite is 32cal, man do they ever shoot nice!
Ive never made my own shells before,( I do reload, and pour my own lead) but , there has to be something said , about making casing for an obsolete or very hard to find cartridge. Man I think that just brings big smiles to your face.
Cheers
Brian
 
Nice work! I have a favourite in 32 colt and a marksman in (rebarreled) 22rf, both shoot nice, but still my favourite is 32cal, man do they ever shoot nice!
Ive never made my own shells before,( I do reload, and pour my own lead) but , there has to be something said , about making casing for an obsolete or very hard to find cartridge. Man I think that just brings big smiles to your face.
Cheers
Brian

You bet it does Brian! I really love the little .25's and .32's.

I'm just trying to get my .25ACP mold to fatten up the bullets a little (to fill the bore), I have a friend of mine whose spent more years casting than I have breathing helping out on it and it's not as easy as it seems with these tiny molds. Some success and those print well enough, but they are still a little slim for the bore. I am about to order a 257 mold I think.
 
Allll right - took more than two months to arrive (should have just ordered an M&P mold from Slovenia - they show up within a week!) but my Lyman 257420 mold (.257"/65 grain) finally showed up last week and a friend kindly cast a bunch up for me (thanks Bob!), tried em out today. Fired "as-cast" at .259" and these were the ticket!

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That's just an initial test target at 10 yards but the point is that the holes are nice and round, no tumbling! (the holes through the edge of the plate may skew the photo a bit but these are perfectly round).

So, on to load development....
 
Sure love those Favorites , .25 Stevens & .32 rf are difficult to
find and expensive , just that keeping those old beauties original
is a treat.

That said I do have an 1894 .25 Stevens completely redone & barreled to .22 lr.
shoots like a dream , trigger set to 500 gr.
 

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Sure love those Favorites , .25 Stevens & .32 rf are difficult to
find and expensive , just that keeping those old beauties original
is a treat.

That said I do have an 1894 .25 Stevens completely redone & barreled to .22 lr.
shoots like a dream , trigger set to 500 gr.

Skewrl, gorgeous rifle - may I ask who did your colour case hardening? Love to get a few done....

I can't say mine are entirely originally anymore since I've converted them to centerfire - I get a real kick out of shooting these tiny centerfires. "Every Shot is a Smile" (me, 2021 :) )
 
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