Magazine fed bolt action 22lr with Iron Sights for Youth

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Hi All,

I will admit I did not use the search, for some reason it was not working on my phone although I went back several pages to look for similar topics.

I am looking to get my 11 year old son into shooting more than his basic exposure to pellet guns. I have been looking for a magazine fed bolt action 22lr with iron sights. I was originally going to purchase him a 10/22 since they are in stock, accessible and something he can easily grow into. But a part of me, and a lot of what I am reading as recommendations, lean towards a single shot bolt action as a better option for a starter rifle for a new shooter. My concern with a 10/22 is discipline (sight picture, trigger control, thinking through the fundamentals before each shot, safety). I would prefer a magazine fed rifle so that he is not stuck loading each round by hand after every shot (I would purchase a couple magazines). I think manually loading a round after every shot would diminish the fun as a new shooter quickly. I feel a rifle with iron sights that is capable of scope mounting would provide for a future proof solution, but importantly teaching the fundamentals of marksmanship from the start.

Anyways to my dilemma, I was thinking that a Marlin XT-22 would be an excellent fit. Magazine fed, bolt action, iron sights, factory scope mounted options (not great quality, but good enough for a beginning shooter at 50-75 yards), which i would remove initially. However I cannot find any in stock anywhere. Does anyone know an online retailer that has any stock? I was planning a synthetic stock for weight and durability purposes, but I would be open to wood assuming I could find one.

Are there alternatives in the 500 cdn or less price range? Any thoughts on the Ruger American 22lr as a viable alternative?

Anybody disagree with my concerns on the 10/22?

Unfortunately I only have a .223 caliber presently (more of a handgun guy over the last 15 years). Otherwise if I already had a 22lr, I would just have him learn with it. Any investment I make today however, I can use it, same as my younger son (8) although he has not shown much interest.
 
Ruger is a great gun but 529 compared to savage at 339. You will have to buy the scope separate, seems like the combos have no sights. I agree on the 10/22, i am not a fan of semis for safety reasons, i pack my rifles around the farm, not to a range.
 
The Savage B-22 FV is a heavy (Varmint) barrel, but does not 'come with' irons. Very accurate (as is Sav MkII and the Marlin ) and has rotary magazine that is flush with stock. The B-22 FV-SR has a threaded barrel and the barrel is shorter, but again No Irons. Also consider the Marlin 60 - tube feed and comes with irons - but is a semi. Way more accurate than a 10/22 'out of the box'.
 
cz455 scout or cz457 scout are worth considering. I bought a cz455 scout for my grandson to use. These are rifles that are more expensive initially, however you do not outgrow them, since you can put a longer length of pull stock on them and can be converted into other rimfire calibers with the CZ mini sets.
 
norinco scorpio meets your requirements perfectly. available for around $200. very comfortable stock, weighs 5 lbs, 10 shot mag, nice trigger, very accurate, open sights, high quality action. honestly, its a "better" gun than those being discussed IMHO. just needs a teardown/clean before shooting.
tenda.com has them in stock for 180. if you order one get an extra mag

https://www.gotenda.com/product/scorpio-em332a

spend the money you save on a better scope and mounts and he'll love it.
 
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I just went down this road with my two daughters. If I was to do it again I would not worry about the iron sight training off the start. Kids have more fun when they succeed and a scope helps accomplish this. After a couple somewhat lack lustre times at the range I quickly scoped their .22 up and they (me) had way more fun. Now that they have confidence they can hit what they aim at they do pick up the rifles with open sights ‘for fun’ and are becoming very proficient with them.

I agree with a repeater over single, did that as well.

I think I agree with you on the 10/22 but for different reasons. We plink at a lot of smaller targets, golf balls being a favorite target and other things like spinners of relatively the same size. The 10/22’s, at least the ones I have with the ammo we use, just aren’t accurate enough to be fun. I do notice when they shoot them they know this and take a rapid firing approach to hit their target. So a new shooter may also do this.

To kids interested in shooting I would get the most accurate 22 my budget would allow and use the best ammo the gun likes, at least until they are hooked.

Accuracy is interesting and fun.

Good luck!!
 
If it's in your budget, CZ makes a couple of very nice iron sighted .22s. There is the 457 Lux and the 457 Training Rifle. There are also a couple of older CZ 452 Lux's on the EE, they are very popular in the .22 community.
 
I agree with this. I recently introduced a couple young kids to shooting using a Henry Mini Bolt with irons. One took right too it and did quite well. The other had a hard time with the concept and became disenchanted with the whole thing. It got worse for her as the other kid got better. It would have been different for her if I had a scoped gun. Instead I drastically increased the size of the target so she could feel excited about shooting.

I just went down this road with my two daughters. If I was to do it again I would not worry about the iron sight training off the start. Kids have more fun when they succeed and a scope helps accomplish this. After a couple somewhat lack lustre times at the range I quickly scoped their .22 up and they (me) had way more fun. Now that they have confidence they can hit what they aim at they do pick up the rifles with open sights ‘for fun’ and are becoming very proficient with them.

I agree with a repeater over single, did that as well.

I think I agree with you on the 10/22 but for different reasons. We plink at a lot of smaller targets, golf balls being a favorite target and other things like spinners of relatively the same size. The 10/22’s, at least the ones I have with the ammo we use, just aren’t accurate enough to be fun. I do notice when they shoot them they know this and take a rapid firing approach to hit their target. So a new shooter may also do this.

To kids interested in shooting I would get the most accurate 22 my budget would allow and use the best ammo the gun likes, at least until they are hooked.

Accuracy is interesting and fun.

Good luck!!
 
A used Savage Mark II or an earlier Lakefield Mark II in good condition would fit the bill nicely and you would not feel bad about trimming the stock to fit.
 
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