FAMAS 5.56mm

I was told by French troops that it required a lot of maintnance in order to be stoppage free. Also it has a very fast rate of fire when full auto.
 
"What the hell ever happened to Ted Zimmerman? I have not seen him in years. I hope he is still sticking it to the man."

Ted's still around. I see him occasionally at Lock and Load in Edmonton. He had a kick ass French Foreign Legion arms display at the gun shows for a few years. Good guy, I worked with him at CN for 12 years or so. - dan
 
Anyone who says the FA MAS is crap has never used one.

The main problem I've found with them is the fire control system is just way too complex, one lever to switch between burst-fire and full-auto, another to switch between safe and fire, plus the sight adjustment is quite complex as well, and in addition on the G2 model the mag release is really hard to operate.

Once you've got a mag in, cocked the thing, got the sights adjusted and got all the levers pointing the right way, I'd take one over an AUG or an SA80 any day of the week. (Remember we are talking about the people who came up with the Citroën cars with their insane controls).

They are really accurate, and they do work reliably with NATO ammo (fluted chamber) contrary to the comment above. Plus they are really easy to take apart and clean. Recoil is a bit heavy compared to an AR-15 but they do have a proper buttplate so it's not a big problem.

I wouldn't shoot one on full-auto though because the mag change is a #####. Better balanced than an AUG or an SA80 though.

I've always though the FA MAS is the best bullpup, mainly because of the trigger pull, it is heavy and creepy like all bullpup rifles but the trigger is far better shaped than the stupid straight backward pull of the AUG, or the "squaddie proof" trigger on the SA80. Which means it has a more predictable letoff than either of them, and trigger control is far better.

The iron sights are also by far the best of any bullpup rifle, and a fair number of regular rifles, however it is very hard to mount optics on which is a big downside.

They're also not expensive, the 20 or so guns imported into the US go for insane amounts of money but they don't cost that much if you want to equip your Army.

I tried an FS2000 the other day and it seems to me to be basically a more complicated version of the AUG, the trigger is just as bad.

Personally I think the FA MAS is the best bullpup rifle.
 
Matt_P said:
^I'd say another drawback is that it's not gas operated, but blowback...
Wouldn't it get dirty as hell after a few hundred rounds?
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It is not a real blowback per se but a delayed blowback action in which the cartridge case acts as a piston; part of the chamber is fluted and the case is floated on a mantle of gas in the second part of the extraction. There's a lever arrangement with a very high mechanical advantage that works against the premature opening of the breech. Once that mechanical advantage is overcome, the lever lets the carrier recoil fully.
PP.
 
PerversPépère said:
It is not a real blowback per se but a delayed blowback action in which the cartridge case acts as a piston; part of the chamber is fluted and the case is floated on a mantle of gas in the second part of the extraction. There's a lever arrangement with a very high mechanical advantage that works against the premature opening of the breech. Once that mechanical advantage is overcome, the lever lets the carrier recoil fully.
PP.
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Yeah but where do the gases vent to afterwards?
 
Matt the HK G3 /91,MP5/94 and the G33 /93 al use the delayed blowback system it is reliable and the Gas goes down the barrel very little if any gas escapes the breech
 
^I see...

Any distinct advantages to the delayed blowback system? I'd guess accuracy would be an advantage due to a lack of barrel harmonics caused by a gas piston ramming back and forth
 
Matt_P said:
^I see...

Any distinct advantages to the delayed blowback system? I'd guess accuracy would be an advantage due to a lack of barrel harmonics caused by a gas piston ramming back and forth
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It's a lot easier to clean, that's for sure. They are accurate too, you're right the lack of a gas piston probably does help in that regard.
 
The main problem I've found with them is the fire control system is just way too complex, one lever to switch between burst-fire and full-auto, another to switch between safe and fire, plus the sight adjustment is quite complex
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:confused: the safety is in front of the trigger and control between safe/single/auto and the burst selector is behind the mag and isn't supposed to be switch in action : you assigned witch of your guys are on full auto and witch one are on burst (FNG ;) ) Not as good as AUG but still simple

Sight adjustment is done without any tools and can't be changed by mistake, you can also record the positions for an easy visual check... I liked it.
 
Bigbill said:
Ted Zimmerman was his names. I was happy to know him at the time he stood up to all the bulls**t of our “kinder, gentler” Canada. He had balls, and said "F you all" to the establishment.

Funny how a spineless jellyfish like David Suzuki is hailed as the bold radical standing for “what is right” in Canadian society. Now I hear Suzuki works for Wal-Mart, doing whatever the Yankees tell him. He is about as radical as the Imperial Bank of Commerce and about as heroic as an insurance appraiser. There is something seriously wrong with a society that recognizes a “man” of this caliber as anything other than the most cynical of opportunists. Nobody knows Ted, but he was the real deal.

What the hell ever happened to Ted Zimmerman? I have not seen him in years. I hope he is still sticking it to the man.

BB
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Uncle Teddy's fine, and most of the books he's credited in have also miss-spelled his name so I won't hold it against you :runaway:
 
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