Handgun - What should I buy?
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Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
First pistol? Sharp recoil, stupid loud, big ball of fire, piss-poor sights, questionable accuracy, corrosive ammo that is steel cored that you likely will not be allowed to shoot at your range....
Perfect starter gun right???
Not!!
the cz75 is a great gun if you have larger hands.i have smaller hands and it shoots good but you need thin grips.i don't know why but the cz75D compact fit me better.
a glock 17 is great and the gens 4 and 5 have the grip swells.It lets you increase or decrease for grip size.Can purchase an MCK RONI kit and turn it into a carbine--really sweet piece of kit.
an m1911a1 if you want power and thin grips with a great trigger.
a sig p226 i had 1 in .40(police trade in)-well worn with E2 grips(thin grips).I just can't justify aluminum frame with stainless slide.you could FEEL the grooves on the outside of the barrel top and bottom from slide action.plus the slide rails wear and remove the annodizing--i traded that one for an M&P spec series 9mm ver. 2.0
M&P 2.0 is not as good as a glock BUT grip angle is different and grips are like sandpaper.still a really nice gun.i ordered 1.0 grip swells to cut down on the sandpaper feel.
a glock 17 is great and the gens 4 and 5 have the grip swells.It lets you increase or decrease for grip size.Can purchase an MCK RONI kit and turn it into a carbine--really sweet piece of kit.
an m1911a1 if you want power and thin grips with a great trigger.
a sig p226 i had 1 in .40(police trade in)-well worn with E2 grips(thin grips).I just can't justify aluminum frame with stainless slide.you could FEEL the grooves on the outside of the barrel top and bottom from slide action.plus the slide rails wear and remove the annodizing--i traded that one for an M&P spec series 9mm ver. 2.0
M&P 2.0 is not as good as a glock BUT grip angle is different and grips are like sandpaper.still a really nice gun.i ordered 1.0 grip swells to cut down on the sandpaper feel.
I had one for a while, it was fun, but the novelty soon wore off when I decided to become more active in competition, and knowing how inaccurate it was, and that PPC, IDPA and others do not allow these guns and this caliber. I found I was no longer shooting it so I sold it. It also scared the f*** out of inexperienced shooters that I was sharing the range with. More noise and concussion than a .357 or .44 mag.
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My hands are certainly not large, nor are my fingers long; but I find the CZ75 pattern with the stock overmoulded rubber grips to be perfict for my hand's anatomy; likewise, the M&P for a polymer gun, fits me great (my former pastor has one and he lets me shoot his). I am shooting two CZ clones, a Nork NZ85B with CZ Overmoulded grips. I bought it with the intent of trying out the CZ patern before paying big bucks and buying an actual CZ. I have since fired a few CZs, and they are great, but the Nork is as accurate, the trigger as good, and it is 100% reliable with both Nork and CZ mags. I also have a Jericho .40. Great accuracy, great trigger, and also 100% reliable (I also like the decocker featur), slightly different shape than the CZ/Nork, not as comfortable in hand for me though, I am still looking for some better grips.
Regarding the 1911, I agree. Comfortable grip, good trigger, but single action only. Mag capacity is lower because of the design as weill. I shoot PPC so we only load 6 rounds at a time. I'm running a Nork with factory adjustable rear target sight. Surprisingly accurate with 200 gr lead SWCs. Great trigger. Have owned it for years.
Great advice! I'm ideally going to own both a .22 and 9mm eventually. I'm just deciding which one I want to own first. As a student I shouldn't be spending too much too quickly. 9mm is definitely more fun but I get to shoot more (and thus extended fun?) with a .22
sillymike
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As a student, you definitively want a 22lr. If for no other reason then when you invite girl(s) (or whatever strike your fancy) on a shooting-date...
- You'll $ left to go grab a bite afterward.
- She won't be intimidated by it, and she will enjoy being able to hit the target.
ahhhh that ship has already sailed my friend. I took my gf to a range and she didn't like it. I rented a PCC to start her off thinking it had the least recoil out of all the options (since the range didn't have a .22). She hated how loud the range was and couldn't get used to the sound of shots being fired. I tried getting her to go again but to no avail.
Your usage of the term 'Karen', in this context, is not an appropriate use of the term.
The guy is just pointing out the fact that - given the plethora of choice now available to us - no Tokarov is a 'best choice' for any uneducated new person to use to learn to shoot. For a WOW gamer, perhaps. For a I-don't-care-about-competition plinker, perhaps. For anyone else, however, they'll be much better off with something more contemporary (like a Glock 17, or 19, or a Sig Sauer P320). If that makes him a 'Karen', that would make anyone who disagrees with anyone a 'Karen'. (Which, I guess, would mean that - for disagreeing with you - you'd also call me a 'Karen').
No, that isn't what 'Karen' means.
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